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MichaelG Rookie Author Saskatoon Posts:10 Points:450 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Apr 5, 2012 10:52:19 AM Ignore MichaelG Report Abuse At the risk of appearing to be an anti Big Gasoiline activist may I suggest that the general public adopt a slogan of "Let THEM Store It".In other words, dont store it your gas tank, store it in theirs. Buy only a fixed dollar amount , say $50 in a car or $80 in a truck, no matter what the price, which as the price goes up will get you fewer litre,and a few more stops, however they have to move it, they have no storage capacity, and they cant slow their refineries down. The price/litre or gallon will soon drop. Please pass this on.

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At the risk of appearing to be an anti Big Gasoiline activist may I suggest that the general public adopt a slogan of "Let THEM Store It".In other words, dont store it your gas tank, store it in theirs. Buy only a fixed dollar amount , say $50 in a car or $80 in a truck, no matter what the price, which as the price goes up will get you fewer litre,and a few more stops, however they have to move it, they have no storage capacity, and they cant slow their refineries down. The price/litre or gallon will soon drop. Please pass this on.

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MichaelG Rookie Author Saskatoon Posts:10 Points:450 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Apr 10, 2012 9:54:10 AM Ignore MichaelG Report Abuse To 29644...do the gas stations in your city post widely different prices, making it worth your while to drive across town to take advantage of the savings?
MichaelG Rookie Author Saskatoon Posts:10 Points:450 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 11:25:24 AM Ignore MichaelG Report Abuse I'm out of here, it seems this site is about cents/pennies, not the underlying reasons for excessive prices. EVERY gas station in my city of 270,000 charges EXACTLY the same, except Costco which gives an immediate discount at the pump. Would anyone describe that as price fixing? Apparently not. It appears to me that this site has been hijacked by apologists for the retail gas companies.
Michael29644 Champion Author Greenville Posts:5,139 Points:870,000 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 12:33:24 AM Ignore Michael29644 Report Abuse Are you here to post prices or just to post wild, unsubstantiated theories?
MichaelG Rookie Author Saskatoon Posts:10 Points:450 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 4:26:57 PM Ignore MichaelG Report Abuse Gas prices in Calgary have jumped just days before the Easter long weekend. With a citywide average of $1.214 per litre for regular gas, according to , prices at the pump are inching toward a three-year record set last April, when they averaged $1.289 per litre ($4.90/US gallon). This obviously isn't a US problem though.Read more: /business/price+jump+catches+Calgary+drivers+surprise+with+video/6412711/story.html [Edited by: MichaelG at 4/6/2012 4:36:02 PM EST]
HeavyDuty_cache Champion Author Omaha Posts:13,062 Points:2,505,055 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 3:10:17 PM Ignore HeavyDuty_cache Report Abuse The site is about finding the cheapest price. Your math is not correct and you need to take an economics class. Storing the gas doesn't hurt oil companies one bit, nor does it hurt the station owners since they make very little profit from gas sales. If you want to help with gas prices please post some prices on the board for your area.
1OILMAN Champion Author Alabama Posts:2,153 Points:181,140 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 2:42:11 PM Ignore 1OILMAN Report Abuse If prices are moving up you lose. If prices are moving down you win. Either way, they will sale their product. If not in your area then somewhere else. They are not that stupid. So.....
MichaelG Rookie Author Saskatoon Posts:10 Points:450 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 9:36:39 AM Ignore MichaelG Report Abuse OK NPearl...here are gas prices for for you. EVERY gas station where I live in a city of 270,000, charges the same price...$4.80 a US Gallon.Thats the posted price. Some give 5 cents discount, such as at Costco, to members only.Or coupons to be used in their store !
chemist74 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:13,510 Points:2,395,980 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 8:20:20 AM Ignore chemist74 Report Abuse Refineries CAN and do sometimes slow production. There other options, which they are currently doing, is to export the EXCESS gasoline to other countries that will pay an equal or higher price.
OilerFan Champion Author Tulsa Posts:14,184 Points:2,457,575 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 8:16:04 AM Ignore OilerFan Report Abuse The original post says they can't slow their refineries down. That is wrong. They not only can, but they have done so many times in the past.
MIT05 Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:4,307 Points:1,419,025 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 7:57:50 AM Ignore MIT05 Report Abuse Agree
gougenator Champion Author Dallas Posts:30,042 Points:3,270,900 Joined:Aug 2003	Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 7:18:30 AM Ignore gougenator Report Abuse i agree ,keep the gas in the gas station and your money in your pocket UNTIL needed ,conserve ,so what if they export it, something that cannot be controlled then when someone borrows my car ,THEY CAN GAS IT UP on thier dime
bluenvoy Champion Author Nashville Posts:15,171 Points:1,900,615 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 7:02:17 AM Ignore bluenvoy Report Abuse No thank you.
MertieMan Champion Author Lexington Posts:14,928 Points:2,923,310 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 6:45:17 AM Ignore MertieMan Report Abuse You sound like a person that has oodles of money just laying around.
a351c Champion Author Mississippi Posts:9,167 Points:1,723,585 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 4:38:41 AM Ignore a351c Report Abuse And they will just ship more of it to other countries. No help for us here
KnullaMej Rookie Author Oklahoma Posts:85 Points:51,335 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 2:20:21 AM Ignore KnullaMej Report Abuse You state "Buy only a fixed dollar amount , say $50 in a car or $80 in a truck".... that is asinine, my car can't hold $50 (currently $3.63/gal) in gas to start with. Nor can most small cars. $50-80 will fill or nearly fill the tank of most large cars and trucks. If you've have said $20-40 or 1/4 to 1/2 a tank that would have made more sense. Bottom line though, that won't stop the refineries because instead of getting gas once a week or so you'll be buying it 2 or 3 times and spending more time at the gas stations. The best way to lower prices is to lower demand, and to do that we must lower consumption. And that won't happen until more people start taking public transportation (where available), consolidating trips/errands, walking to nearby businesses instead of driving a block or 3, etc
MichaelG Rookie Author Saskatoon Posts:10 Points:450 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 2:19:26 AM Ignore MichaelG Report Abuse It appears to me that this site is all about "uh, wheres the cheapest gas , guys, but lets not do anything about it." I've met people who will travel right across town to save a penny, without even thinking about how much it cost to get there. Oh well.
OceansidePoms Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:1,704 Points:709,570 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 1:02:37 AM Ignore OceansidePoms Report Abuse Yeah, basically beating around the bush of saying "Let's Boycott (SOME) Gas (TEMPORARILY)" but in a 50% instead of 100% way.... So what are we going to do? Nearly ALWAYS Drive around with 1/8 or a 1/4 tank at a time instead of FILLING up (which is better for your car than constantly & always driving on fumes), & then once we FINALLY HIT "E" go back for another "1/8 of a tank"?!? When the Gas has now probably ONLY gone UP another 5-20¢! (Not that it would make much of a difference when purchasing 2.5 Gallons of Gas per fill up)! Plus, do you know how many EXTRA MILES & TRIPS to the Gas Station you would have to make?!? The only people "storing it" would be the Stations & the Refineries I suppose... Which ultimately screws US OVER! Because if they slow down, then we PAY FOR THEIR LOSS! Not to mention, this kind of thinking never gets put into any actual "EFFECTIVE LEVEL OF PARTICIPATION"... If I'm ever going to think of the subject of "Storing Gas" in ANY Fashion, it's going to be when I get my next BIG discount at my local Grocery Store & pay about $1.00 per Gallon & STORE IT all in my back yard in my SWIMMING POOL... Still, not realistically happening... Sorry, but there truly would be no good outcome for this... It's good that people are thinking of ideas to possibly help this ultimately expensive situation we are in with Gas/Oil. But this idea is not a good one... @Gas_Buddy laid it out very well... Take his advice before you "pass this on" PLEASE!
cogas1 All-Star Author Colorado Posts:529 Points:359,515 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 12:03:32 AM Ignore cogas1 Report Abuse Mmmmmkay.
GBMAX Champion Author Phoenix Posts:4,800 Points:1,928,480 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Apr 5, 2012 9:14:55 PM Ignore GBMAX Report Abuse ???
TomeHills Veteran Author New Mexico Posts:402 Points:301,080 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Apr 5, 2012 9:03:48 PM Ignore TomeHills Report Abuse If you want to waste you time doing that go ahead. My time is wort more than gas.
HeavyDuty_cache Champion Author Omaha Posts:13,062 Points:2,505,055 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Apr 5, 2012 8:43:38 PM Ignore HeavyDuty_cache Report Abuse Where do you get your math? Also it would be nice if you posted some prices to help your fellow drivers find the cheapest price available.
Gas_Buddy Champion Author Maryland Posts:26,197 Points:3,061,500 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Apr 5, 2012 8:18:20 PM Ignore Gas_Buddy Report Abuse 2011370Z wrote: "It seems to me that if you are driving around with less than a full tank you're saving weight, hence better mileage." First, you normally don't drive very long with a full tank of gas. Second, if you want to reduce weight, forgetting that you might have bought more car than you needed (at more cost than you needed to spend), forgetting that you probably, once in a while, drive a little extra and use gas that you wouldn't have used if you didn't drive out of your way, why not eliminate your passengers? Chances are they weigh more than the decreasing amount of gas in your tank weighs. MichYaelG: Include me in the "don't get it" group. You're suggesting that, knowing that gas prices will increase, I should buy only a little, and then go back for more gas after the prices have increased? You really think that the refineries will have problems if we have "them" store it? I'm not exactly sure how they're storing it. If I'm buying X amount today, and Y amount in a couple days, I'm still buying the same amount as I normally would; I'm just inconveniencing myself by making two trips when I could have made one. I don't see how, because maybe I'm naive, this will slow their refineries down. And, even if it did slow their refineries down (whatever that means), how will that cause the price to "soon drop"? Said another way, I'm sure you know that the primary cost of fuel at the pump is the result of the cost of crude oil and taxes, and that the mark-up per gallon at the refinery level (and at the gas station level) is relatively small, a matter of cents per gallon. Even if the refinery and the gas station sold fuel at absolutely no mark-up (forgetting that it would be impossible, then, to cover operating expenses), and you saved the 20 or 25 cents per gallon mark-up (to cover operating expenses and, yes, profit for the investors in the businesses), do you really think it would be that much of a savings for you? How about, and it's only a suggestion, if you want to stop spending money, instead of suggesting "Let THEM Store It", how about giving up your cell phone and text messaging plan? Forgoing your cable television and cable package plans? Not buying another computer or tablet if you already have a functioning one? How about, next time, not buying more car or truck than you need (with the additional finance charges and possible increased insurance)? How about not spending on things you don't absolutely need? And, to help the next person save money, how about not taking a pay raise that might require the company you work for to increase the price of it's products or services? Just a suggestion; that's all. Just a suggestion.
maxstar Champion Author Chicago Posts:18,680 Points:837,245 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Apr 5, 2012 7:46:10 PM Ignore maxstar Report Abuse MichaelG: Your plan does nothing to reduce the rate that the gasoline is used. It looks like you will just visit the station more often. If you were able to reduce overall usage they would just send the fuel to an area where it would sell. The plan would then need to be renamed "Let THEM ship It".
jcpatriots Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:3,971 Points:624,020 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Apr 5, 2012 7:38:17 PM Ignore jcpatriots Report Abuse Lol, people will come up with anything. You are joking, right?
2011370Z Champion Author Phoenix Posts:6,354 Points:710,780 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Apr 5, 2012 7:17:01 PM Ignore 2011370Z Report Abuse It seems to me that if you are driving around with less than a full tank you're saving weight, hence better mileage.
hornet17 Champion Author Vancouver Posts:1,323 Points:440,865 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Apr 5, 2012 7:16:56 PM Ignore hornet17 Report Abuse just like everyone else said, if you think this is going to work, dream on.
PatAZ Champion Author Tucson Posts:9,285 Points:123,500 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Apr 5, 2012 6:28:03 PM Ignore PatAZ Report Abuse This is completely unworkable and utter nonsense.
kookiwoogi Champion Author Indiana Posts:7,882 Points:2,801,695 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Apr 5, 2012 6:24:15 PM Ignore kookiwoogi Report Abuse It won't work.
brerrabbitTX Champion Author Houston Posts:1,070 Points:18,785 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Apr 5, 2012 5:03:24 PM Ignore brerrabbitTX Report Abuse Your proposal is merely a slight change to the delivery scedule. Big deal. If you don't cut the amount of gas you use annually then this accomplishes nothing. I E you drive 40 miles round trip to work five days a week. So instead of buying 20 gallons a week you buy 10 gallons twice a week. What have you accomplished? Now if you parked the car took the bus to work and limited driving on weekends and only bought 20 gallons once a month, and 15 to 20 thousand of your neighbors did the same thing as well as several million others across the country then maybe you have an effect. But changing your buying pattern while still buying the same amount of gas every month will have zero effect.
PithyOpiner Champion Author Stockton Posts:16,394 Points:1,624,270 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Apr 5, 2012 3:23:31 PM Ignore PithyOpiner Report Abuse Yeah, I get it. Good idea. I'll pass it around. So, all of us will only get a half a tank when we fill up right? The other half tank the station has to hold for me when I am good and ready to shoot it into my tank. Brilliant!!! You should be teaching at MIT.
MichaelG Rookie Author Saskatoon Posts:10 Points:450 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Apr 5, 2012 2:23:07 PM Ignore MichaelG Report Abuse Nobody is getting the point here....if you dont buy they will have to store it, and if you fill up at a lower price , they will keep on upping the price until people just stop buying it, then the price will fall.The idea is to get them to realise they are gouging, but then there are some apologists say they aren't. Manipulation of the gasoline market has been going on for a number of years now.They have us figured out, its time to figure them out.And shipping it overseas is no cheap alternative for them either, unless its from Canada to the USA."Let Them Store It"..Mike
Michael29644 Champion Author Greenville Posts:5,139 Points:870,000 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Apr 5, 2012 12:49:02 PM Ignore Michael29644 Report Abuse "At the risk of appearing to be an anti Big Gasoiline activist may I suggest that the general public adopt a slogan of "Let THEM Store It".In other words, dont store it your gas tank, store it in theirs. Buy only a fixed dollar amount , say $50 in a car or $80 in a truck, no matter what the price, which as the price goes up will get you fewer litre,and a few more stops, however they have to move it, they have no storage capacity, and they cant slow their refineries down. The price/litre or gallon will soon drop. Please pass this on." MichaelG, Here's why that could work against you. If gas prices are rising, it is to your advantage to fill your tank to lock in that price for the capacity of your tank. If you buy less than a full tank, and prices rise, you have to pay even more than what you would have paid had you filled up at the lower price. You would also be spending more money in fuel usage by making more stops at gas stations. What you suggest would help if prices were falling. And if "they" run out of storage capacity, they'll just sell the oil/gas on the open market overseas where they could probably make more money off it. It would not reduce prices, and could even cause them to rise. Why don't you pass that on.
MichaelG Rookie Author Saskatoon Posts:10 Points:450 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Apr 5, 2012 12:11:14 PM Ignore MichaelG Report Abuse I'm suggesting that if they moderate pricing they will keep the refineries up and running. People will buy their gasoline.Nobody wants to see anyone out of work, yet their employers bring it on them.
OceanArcher Champion Author Mississippi Posts:5,843 Points:1,355,100 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Apr 5, 2012 12:06:03 PM Ignore OceanArcher Report Abuse So let me get this straight -- are you suggesting that they shutter some of the refinerys ??
NPearl All-Star Author Los Angeles Posts:873 Points:175,610 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Apr 5, 2012 11:34:11 AM Ignore NPearl Report Abuse So for your first post this is the best you can do? And your second post is the exact same thing in a different thread. Try posting some gas prices. Pretty sure we will not see from you again. Another 2/140