rumbleseat

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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2011 1:37:21 AM
bleifrei65, what impact would you like? Perhaps you would like BP to go bankrupt so they would have no money from which to pay the ongoing expenses and compensation for the disaster? You want your taxes to pay for the thousands of people and hundreds of people that are still cleaning up? Elucidate please, what impact would you like it to have on the many independent business persons with BP franchises, paying local taxes, supporting other local businesses, and employing local people such as your teenagers saving money for college? Would you like them to go bankrupt and add to the unemployment rolls?
There must be some important reasoning, after all, this thread was dead over half a year before being resurrected.
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bleifrei65

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2011 10:02:07 PM
It all comes down to the almight $. But I have not purchased gas @ a BP station since the "accident". If we all would band together, we could make an impact.
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SolarEnergyMN

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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2010 5:56:55 AM
I don't believe in total boycotts. I buy at Costco. Fact is that probably every station in the region is getting Koch Oil gas (I toured the refinery, and that is what I was told). But I do steer clear of brands on some bases. For example, some stations are always at or above the average price as shown here. They should be boycotted till they decide they need to compete. And then, I also drive about 30 percent of the average mileage. Call that a partial boycott of every brand. I think to save the oceans from catastrophic accidents, we need to shrink demand till the safest drilling can satisfy it. That's a complicated process, but it makes more sense than a limited brand boycott. I support solar because I really hate to see a switch from oil to coal. And I support DISTRIBUTED solar because I don't want the country to be covered with high tension cables trying to ship electricity to far off places, losing a huge amount of the energy during the trip.
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MARIOWERX

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Message Posted: Jun 8, 2010 8:52:44 PM
None here.
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SE3.5

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Message Posted: Jun 4, 2010 8:39:22 AM
OMG you folks are stupid. Do you not know that gas is a fungible? It goes through the pipeline and gets dumped into a common tank where all the tank trucks from all the stations come and fill up.
I have lived near two terminals in PA & IN and watched all the different branded tank trucks fill up at the same place.
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Sportsmaster21

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West Virginia
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Message Posted: Jun 3, 2010 3:33:36 PM
I agree with you, but if you read the article from the link I posted below, you are not hurting BP at all. You are hurting a regular person just like me and you, just tryin to make a living.
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Sportsmaster21

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Message Posted: Jun 3, 2010 12:09:11 PM
[L=http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/media/boycott-bp-that-hurts-station-owners-not-the-company/19499350/text deleted of Time[/L]
[Edited by: Sportsmaster21 at 6/3/2010 12:10:12 PM EST]
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nurdco

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Message Posted: Jun 3, 2010 11:49:55 AM
DO NOT buy any OIL products such as Heating Oil
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tweekdakat

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Message Posted: Jun 3, 2010 8:06:16 AM
I don't know what they have to say It makes no difference anyway; Whatever it is, I'm against it!
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catfish99

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Message Posted: May 31, 2010 5:52:28 AM
sneakers - the BP stations owned by BP do have the BP logo, but the corporate owned stations also have a branded convenience store attached (at least according to a couple of investment reports I checked). People tend to think of the store as the station - as in, "lets go to the 7-eleven" not "lets go to the Shell".
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rumbleseat

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Message Posted: May 31, 2010 12:59:27 AM
So, BoobD, it is not okay to try to bankrupt the business people who have invested in a BP business because they aren't involved in the drilling, but it is okay to try to bankrupt the business people who have invested in a CITGO business despite the fact they have nothing to do with Venezuela?
That is totally illogical.
[Edited by: rumbleseat at 5/31/2010 12:59:57 AM EST]
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mitchell6597

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Message Posted: May 30, 2010 6:50:48 PM
I like the idea of a boycott, they will not stop making poor decisions if the public will not let them know we're unhappy. I live in New England and I never understood how the Red Sox filled the stands year after year even though everyone thought they were horrible (c'mon fans, you remember the lean years). I just think that if you don't like what a company is doing, then you shouldn't buy their product. I will be boycotting BP and Exxon now, and try to purchase gas from a more responsible supplier. If there is one.
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lightbulbman2008

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Message Posted: May 30, 2010 3:03:51 PM
NEVER BOUGHT ANY B.P. PRODUCTS.
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Gas_Buddy

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Message Posted: May 30, 2010 11:09:41 AM
Kinda like saying "why boycott the CITGO station owners, they have nothing to do with Venezuelan politics."
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BobD2009

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Message Posted: May 30, 2010 5:58:03 AM
Why boycott the BP station owners, they have nothing to do with drilling. If you want boycott something, boycott the government for another example of corrupt oversight. I like boycotts but smart ones. Yesterday in Hicksville people were standing in front of a BP with boycott BP signs. Cars were pulling in and out as normal. Most people are aware that our fight is on Election Day when we can get rid of the corrupt tax and spend politicians and their political hack cronies. These crooks give people the false sense of security that they are overseeing that companies comply to the law. Instead the are taking gifts and watching porn while on duty. Remember in November.
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Nicoalbum

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Message Posted: May 30, 2010 12:27:21 AM
I'll join the BP boycott.
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Sneakers55

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Message Posted: May 28, 2010 6:52:27 PM
catfish99 wrote:
>By the way, while BP does have corporate-owned stations >in the US, none carry the BP logo. They have a different >brand. So have fun boycotting the wrong place.
Other than ARCO on the West Coast, BP stations all have BP on them. (They might be keeping a one SOHIO, Standard, or Amoco around in each state so somebody can't go in and use their historical logos. Chevron does the same thing, they have a "Standard" station in each state to prevent the name from being used. Procter & Gamble has learned the hard way about abandoned trademarks; one of them later turned up as a Wal-Mart house brand.)BP also announced in 2007 they were going to sell all the stations they owned. They only have 30 left to sell as of the end of last year.
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LanguageMan1

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Message Posted: May 28, 2010 5:16:06 PM
BOYCOTT THEM ALL! BOYCOTT BIG OIL! Do what you can to use less! Pass their stations and use less of their gas and oil and put more money in your pockets, savings and investments. Move into a vehicle that gets better mileage, improve the fuel efficiency of your vehicle(s), walk, take a bus, drive more carefully so as not to waste fuel, etc. You'll be the one to benefit the most, and others will benefit as well.
Yes, BP is solely responsible for what's happened in the Gulf, as more of the truth comes out. Our dear leader though, as well as BP, and the government in-general are responsible that this mess is ongoing, wasn't contained earlier, that they didn't have multiple backup plans to contain a leaking pipe, etc. They should have all learned their lessons 20, 30 and 40 years ago and longer. Just like the state and federal governments, and people, should have learned their lessons from hurricanes previous to Katrina. Hugo, Andrew, Camille, others were good examples.
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HeavyDuty_cache

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Message Posted: May 28, 2010 11:44:05 AM
BP is one of the cheapest by me...
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ricebike

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Message Posted: May 28, 2010 7:55:01 AM
at least when the common consumers see a BP labeled gas station, they'll most likely drive past it, unless they're cheaper than the local competition (ha!)
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catfish99

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Message Posted: May 28, 2010 5:40:45 AM
By the way, while BP does have corporate-owned stations in the US, none carry the BP logo. They have a different brand. So have fun boycotting the wrong place.
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Sneakers55

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Message Posted: May 27, 2010 8:21:08 PM
Gas_Buddy wrote:
>Assuming that you, like me, have no gas stocks
Jim Cramer's #1 mistake for the self-directed investor: owning no oil stocks. I made lots of money on AMOCO and then BP AMOCO and then finally BP. One of my stock analysis services gave BP a "SELL" recommendation and I decided they were going to get worse before they got better.
>you don't think that every international corporation >isn't out strictly for higher profits?
What about those domestic corporations?
Many years ago, Hewlett-Packard (when they were still run by the founders) had a tenet in their corporate values that profits should be as high as possible providing that they weren't so high that they caused conflict with their other corporate values.
Johnson & Johnson has a list of everyone who depends on the company. They flat-out say that if you take care of everyone else first the stockholders should receive a fair return.
>You don't think that every investor on the stock market >isn't interested in higher profits? You don't think the >company you work for isn't interested in higher profits?
I wish I could find exactly what John Smale had to say about profits when he was chairman of what is now Government Motors. It was basically that the employees, suppliers, and dealers came first. And it took only about 20 years from that point to Motors Liquidation Company.
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Gas_Buddy

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Message Posted: May 27, 2010 7:44:21 PM
Boy, I'm going to get slammed for this but, "BP is an international corporation that is raping our oceans strictly for higher profits."
Assuming that you, like me, have no gas stocks, you don't think that every international corporation isn't out strictly for higher profits? You don't think that every investor on the stock market isn't interested in higher profits? You don't think the company you work for isn't interested in higher profits?
Assuming that the "accident" wasn't an accident and that BP deliberately created this problem for whatever reason...I don't know, maybe to get sympathetic public relations? Or to not know how to better spend it's higher profits on anything except recovery operations? Granted God didn't give them the rights to this underwater oil, he also didn't give anyone rights to oil in the groundIs your suggestion.
Is your suggestion that we (us and you) immediately stop using petroleum products?
Just asking is all.
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Holger10

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Message Posted: May 27, 2010 1:15:00 PM
BP is an international corporation that is raping our oceans strictly for higher profits. There are many BP stations which are not privately but corporate owned and run. God did not give them the rights to this oil and the damage they are doing.
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Gas_Buddy

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Message Posted: May 27, 2010 8:30:13 AM
I'm sure that "noBP4kendy" didn't join Gas Buddy, a relatively small website originally created for people to post gas prices so that, during times of rising prices and economic concerns, just to complain about BP and their "criminal activities". I'm sure that "noBP4kendy" is knows that his (her?) complaints would be better addressed in the editorial section of his local newspapers. And it's appreciated that he's taken the time to also post gas prices on this website...we'll, I'm sure he intends to.
And I fully agree with catfish99 that people aren't going to stop at the local BP and say, "He, no gas for me; I'm boycotting your supplier; let me have a pack of smokes, a beef jerkey, cup of joe, and how about one of those boxes of cereal and a high priced gallon of milk." If you're not going to buy gas at a gas station, even one with a "convenience store" attached to it, you're not going to buy in the convenience store when you can save money elsewhere.
While he makes a correct observation that it "was NOT an unavoidable accident", if you accept that idea that every accident is avoidable, the question is, was the accident intentional? When you're dealing underwater at the depths they are and with the complexity of operations, and you're working with millions of dollars of investment and opportunity, and you're knowing what could possibly happen if something goes wrong, no manner how minor, it's not as if BP did this intentionally or was unprepared for what could happen. Did something go wrong? Of course. Was BP as prepared for every eventuality as they could have been? Of course not; no more than the average homeowner is prepared for every eventuality. And was this worse than they were prepared for? I would say; but I don't know how they could have prepared for every possible problem. Forgetting that that would be cost prohibitive, it's unrealistic. In the simplest comparison, good drivers get into accidents just as good drivers are involved in accidents they didn't cause; good cars break down, and doctors don't diagnose so much that everyone is continually in perfect health.
That's not to say that BP didn't make mistakes. Could this have been prevented? Probably. Maybe. I don't know; I'm not in the business of underwater oil drilling any more than I know how to cap oil well fires in the manner of Red Adair. But things can happen.
Is BP doing all that it can to cap the leak? Probably. Maybe? I don't know; I don't see why they wouldn't try what they think would work to end the problem as quickly as possible, rather than let it drag on.But wht are you going to do by "boycotting" BP? What's your goal or objective for a boycott? Do you want them to quit the business of oil exploration? Do you want them to shut down their operations? Do you want them out of the business because you know that the next guy won't make the mistake that BP made, that nothing ever again will happen during oil exploration? What do you want from BP?
You write, "If we all commit to this boycott it may send the message. It can't hurt to try!"
Apparently it can hurt if you dont' try a boycott, but what is the message "this boycott may send"? What message do you want everyone to send?
You write: "If the oil spill isn't enough reason to bring you to action, how about the permit granted to BP (more accurately BOUGHT by BP) in 2007 that gave them an exemption status to regulations set forth by the EPA & Clean Water Act allowing their Indiana refinery to increase the amount of toxic waste that they dump into..... L A K E M I C H I G A N !! including a 51% increase in ammonia, 37% more toxic solids, and significant ADDITIONAL amounts of MERCURY - the only company given permission to dump mercury directly into OUR lake!"
I'm not going to justify or try to explain what they did, but what did they do that other companies didn't do or didn't try to do or wouldn't do if they could get an exemption? BP, just like the company you work for, is in the business of business apparently looked to take every advantage or opportunity it could. And someone gave them permission to do what you're complaining they did. Where is your complaint about the people or group that gave that exemption? Where is your outrage that your government failed in it's oversight? And where is your comment that you wouldn't try to get any advantage or exemption or benefit you could if you had the opportunity. Where is your comment that you, if you were BP, wouldn't try to maximize your opportunity?
You write: "Boycott & spread the word." What is the word you want to spread?
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BobinFR

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Message Posted: May 27, 2010 7:22:13 AM
A boycott only affects the local guys and since BP supplies gas to more than just BP stations it will have little impact on the corporate bottom line.
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catfish99

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Message Posted: May 27, 2010 5:42:53 AM
"NO BP" apparently does not have a good idea of how retailers make money. He states:
And for those of you who think that a boycott of BP GAS and its other petroleum products will negatively effect the individual station owners - you are wrong. The profit margin on fuel sales for the station owners is a penny or two per gallon.
Right as far as he goes - but why do station owners bother with selling gas? They sell it to get you to stop in the first place. If you are not filling up, you are not going to make an extra stop to get a soda from them. You certainly are not going to stop and buy that package of lunch meat for a much higher price than your local grocer. IF you don't stop for gas, you don't buy the profit products. BP boycotts, like all brand specific boycotts, hurt your neighbor and do not affect the global corporation.
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Sneakers55

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Message Posted: May 26, 2010 5:48:12 PM
GMarti wrote:
>It is my understanding that the government has entered >into an agreement with BP that any liability incurred by >BP would be limited to a maximum of $75 million dollars.
The limit is in the Oil Pollution Act of 1990. It applies to all oil companies.
The act only limits third-party torts. Cleanup costs are unlimited. Criminal charges are also allowed.
>Said agreement was signed during the Bush administration.
The Bush-41 Administration, not the Bush-43 Administration. If it was so bad, why did Bill Clinton see fit to change it? He had eight years but he spent most of them fooling around with the interns.
>If you like, I will provide appropriate Snopes and >FactCheck documentation.
I searched Snopes about six different ways and couldn't find anything close.
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Sneakers55

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Message Posted: May 26, 2010 5:31:57 PM
noBP4kendy wrote:
>This was NOT an unavoidable accident!
The top headline in today's Wall Street Journal (the newspaper that insists you have an on-line subscription to read the paper... I get the hard-copy version) was "BP Cites Critical 'Mistake'" (in a report to Congressional investigators).
>BP products include:
... the usual suspects snipped to save space ...
>and, if possible don't buy BPs ARCO ALUMINIUM - most soda >cans are made from it. For the time being, opt for glass >or plastic containers if you can.
You can't win. BP acquired Amoco, the world's largest producer of PET plastic (resin code "1"... as used in soda bottles).
>If we all commit to this boycott it may send the message.
Well, it's awfully hard to hit BP. Gasoline blendstocks are fungible. If BP isn't selling as much to BP stations, they can turn around and sell blendstock to the highest bidder.
Take 89.9% of BP blendstock, 10% of ethanol (in ethanol areas), and 0.1% of Phillips 66 additive package and you've magically come up with 100% Phillips 66. As they call it up in Missouri: "hard working gas." (They sell Phillips 66 in Houston but they advertise Phillips 66 in Kansas City. Wonder why?)
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noBP4kendy

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Message Posted: May 26, 2010 4:01:55 PM
And for those of you who think that a boycott of BP GAS and its other petroleum products will negatively effect the individual station owners - you are wrong. The profit margin on fuel sales for the station owners is a penny or two per gallon. The gas is essentially an incentive service used to draw customers into their store, where a wide array of items will be purchased, creating the vast majority of their profits.
Buying BP products says you support their criminal activities - PERIOD! Why do it if you don't have to?
SHOP AT THE STORES - just DON"T BUY THE GAS!!
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noBP4kendy

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Message Posted: May 26, 2010 3:34:19 PM
This was NOT an unavoidable accident! The TRUE story of how this was CAUSED by BPs greed has only been told by an investigational piece done by Scott Peley of CBS News' 60 MINUTES. The 2 part video, titled; "The Blowout - Deepwater Horizon Disaster" can be viewed online from the 60 Minutes website.
Don't punish the local BP station owner - continue to purchase items from their convenience stores, but, DO NOT BUY THEIR GASOLINE!
BP products include:
Fuels from - A R C O,
A M O C O S T A T I O N S
S A F E W A Y G A S
A M / P M
Motor oil & lubricants from - C A S T R O L
all A M O C O products
(& did you hear that - CASTROL MOTOR OIL)
and, if possible don't buy BPs ARCO ALUMINIUM - most soda cans are made from it. For the time being, opt for glass or plastic containers if you can. If we all commit to this boycott it may send the message.
It can't hurt to try!
If the oil spill isn't enough reason to bring you to action, how about the permit granted to BP (more accurately BOUGHT by BP) in 2007 that gave them an exemption status to regulations set forth by the EPA & Clean Water Act allowing their Indiana refinery to increase the amount of toxic waste that they dump into..... L A K E M I C H I G A N !!
including a 51% increase in ammonia, 37% more toxic solids, and significant ADDITIONAL amounts of MERCURY - the only company given permission to dump mercury directly into OUR lake!
Exusses for inaction are defeatist and unacceptable. Boycott & spread the word.
THIS OIL SPILL IS NO ACCIDENT - ITS CRIMINAL! WATCH THE 60 MINUTES VIDEO
[Edited by: noBP4kendy at 5/26/2010 3:36:00 PM EST]
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VLegardeu

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Message Posted: May 26, 2010 9:19:33 AM
Which brands are buying gas from BP in Canada? I will try to boycott them!
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Baron62nd

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Message Posted: May 25, 2010 10:29:53 AM
I've been boycotting BP for years, ever since they put alcohol in their gasoline. The BP here charges an average of 5 cents more per gallon for there gasohol than the other station in town charges for gasoline.
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gougenator

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Dallas
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Message Posted: May 25, 2010 6:25:49 AM
boycott Bastard Petroleum
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greatgasdude

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Message Posted: May 25, 2010 3:04:31 AM
ARCO is owned by BP
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jdhelm

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Message Posted: May 23, 2010 7:32:07 AM
well, the folks around here parts (rural agriculture community) don't for 1 minute blame the local station owner of the BP store. They're p.o.'d as hell about the parent company, but they are not and probably will not boycott the local merchant of the BP station.
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tmottl

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Message Posted: May 23, 2010 7:31:54 AM
Really now. Boycott BP. And that would do what? Put more money into the rag-heads pockets. Don't cut off your nose to spite your face. BP is American owned people. yes it is a tragic event and I pray that BP and the rig owners take the appropriate responsibility for the mishap.
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dunebuggy1

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Message Posted: May 23, 2010 5:27:04 AM
Given the choice, all my gas would be purchased in Arizona at a BP station with a Lawn Jockey in the front. And if they had a video with AMOS and ANDY I'd buy it too!!!!
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dunebuggy1

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Message Posted: May 23, 2010 5:22:15 AM
Yaeh Right you guys were there and saw the malfiecence that caused the spill. Get real, BP didn't want to waste oil and they sure as hell don't want to have to pay a bunch of cry baby fisherman that probably wouldn't have been able to fish much longer anyway. Some poor dumb slob maybe got blown up for being the dip that blew the oil-rig to the bottom. BP keeps gas in your tank. Send them a note of support and thanks that you don't have to walk to work. If your a municipal employee or federal employee go get a real job and quit milking politicians.
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GMarti

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Message Posted: May 23, 2010 12:34:07 AM
Also agree with Catfish99. The local BP store is usually owned by a local citizen who is in business to provide a living for himself and his family. He owns no equity interest in BP, merely sells it and he has no control over this company's greedy self interests.
I fail to see where a boycott would have much effect other than hurting our local businessmen.
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GMarti

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Iowa
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Message Posted: May 23, 2010 12:29:47 AM
It is my understanding that the government has entered into an agreement with BP that any liability incurred by BP would be limited to a maximum of $75 million dollars.
Said agreement was signed during the Bush administration. If you like, I will provide appropriate Snopes and FactCheck documentation.
With such a small maximum liability, there was little motivation on BP's part to spend large amounts of money to prevent what has just happened.
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Gas_Buddy

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Message Posted: May 22, 2010 1:01:00 PM
roswybuddy:
What will a boycott of BP accomplish? Said another way, what's your "demand" for the boycott that BP is supposed to respond to in order for you to end your boycott?
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roswybuddy

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Message Posted: May 22, 2010 12:40:50 PM
Agree with the call to boycott BP.
With regards to avoiding an oil spill, I don't think, from what we know now, there is a great desire on BP or the government's part to do ALL they can to ensure no accidents. In the long run, I believe we will find that the minimum necessary was done to get the platform operational. That does not mean all actions were taken to make drilling in the Gulf as safe as possible. (And this goes for any producer in the Gulf)
[Edited by: roswybuddy at 5/22/2010 12:41:10 PM EST]
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Gas_Buddy

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Message Posted: May 19, 2010 11:08:35 AM
speedy 911: Well, if there are no BP stations in Arizona, you're simply going to have to go out of your way to find a BP somewhere else to boycott if you want to follow 1fuelish1's suggestion.
My comment to 1fuelish1 is, if you want to call it negligence and greed, don't you think that, in order to make more money, and to not have to pay for avoidable "accidents", that BP would have tried to avoide such a spill? It's not like you're looking for something to happen, and accidents, especially a mile under water, in the dark depths where oil could be located, can happen. Even you do all you can to try and prevent them.
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speedy_911

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Message Posted: May 19, 2010 10:23:33 AM
No BP in Arizona
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Gas_Buddy

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Message Posted: May 10, 2010 6:58:04 PM
And what, exactly, will boycotting BP do? If you're going to boycott BP, you're asking them to do something to satisfy your demands in order for you to end the boycott.
What result do you want from the boycott?
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scoutmaster

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Message Posted: May 4, 2010 6:41:27 AM
Yeah all that boycotting is lining the pockets of the oil companies with cash! Real effective!
[Edited by: scoutmaster at 5/4/2010 6:41:41 AM EST]
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catfish99

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Message Posted: May 4, 2010 5:43:17 AM
After all, the other companies on the "boycott list" have grown quite nicely since they were added to the mythical "boycott list". Might as well delude yourself over BP along with Citgo, ExxonMobil, Valero, and all the companies on the Middle East email spam.
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BobD2009

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Long Island
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Message Posted: May 4, 2010 12:36:49 AM
I'm in favor of boycotts but not this one. Our governments lack of competent oversight is just as much to blame. Government always wants more and more oversight but is inept to oversee.
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TommyR

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: May 3, 2010 6:29:37 AM
Ok we'll ad BP to the boycott list.
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