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fine2000 Sophomore Author Michigan Posts:241 Points:15,505 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jun 4, 2010 10:04:00 PM Ignore fine2000 Report Abuse With this oil disaster. BP is clearly not doing enough to help the victims of the gulf coast, having lost their jobs and way of life while doing very little to get this spill cleaned up quickly. Stick it to BP. Stick it to them. Do not buy a penny worth of gas from BP stations.

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With this oil disaster. BP is clearly not doing enough to help the victims of the gulf coast, having lost their jobs and way of life while doing very little to get this spill cleaned up quickly. Stick it to BP. Stick it to them. Do not buy a penny worth of gas from BP stations.

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scooooter7 Veteran Author Los Angeles Posts:253 Points:58,695 Joined:Sep 2010	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2010 11:22:45 PM Ignore scooooter7 Report Abuse Might as well boycott all gas stations
Sneakers55 Champion Author Houston Posts:51,338 Points:2,145,125 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Sep 27, 2010 2:56:20 PM Ignore Sneakers55 Report Abuse Once it's refined, fuel is fungible. So, if you're feeling virtuous by going to Conoco instead, they may be taking BP refined product wholesale to keep up with demand. The major impact of a BP boycott would be against the mom and pop shops who are unlucky enough to have a BP sign outside. It could be Mobil or Texaco next time, who knows?
Lablib Rookie Author Wisconsin Posts:97 Points:14,020 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Sep 22, 2010 12:22:31 PM Ignore Lablib Report Abuse Let's boycott....insert name of oil company that is in news lately....and buy gasoline from ... insert name of oil company that hasn't been in news lately. This is so stupid. I wonder what the response would be if BP decided to boycott all the consumers for a week. Shutdown all their oil and gas wells, refineries, retail outlets, pipelines, etc. I bet people would gain a little more respect for how important they are to our economy. Like so many readers have said if you really want to do something...ride your bike...aka...use less gasoline.
650CFM All-Star Author Utah Posts:713 Points:150,180 Joined:Sep 2010	Message Posted: Sep 21, 2010 1:22:18 PM Ignore 650CFM Report Abuse Boycott politicians.
Washcloth Veteran Author Portland Posts:345 Points:247,270 Joined:Jul 2010	Message Posted: Jul 20, 2010 7:07:21 PM Ignore Washcloth Report Abuse Nicoalbum (and others calling for a BP boycott), can you please be specific as to how we can boycott BP? I'm right behind you if you can tell me how to do this, considering that all of the gas we buy is blended with other gas from other companies, no matter where you go. As reported in the New York Times, almost all gas stations frequently carry BP products, though it's not labeled as such, so no matter where we take our business we are supporting BP. I don't own any BP stock, but I DO ride my bike instead of drive whenever possible. Any suggestions that would actually affect BP directly? Reading back in the boycott forums, as we should all do, there doesn't seem to be a simple solution.
scoutmaster Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:81,372 Points:3,255,570 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Jul 17, 2010 11:15:27 PM Ignore scoutmaster Report Abuse The retail stations had nothing to do with the spill. If you really want to hit 'em where it hurts, sell your BP stock!
Nicoalbum Champion Author Ottawa Posts:6,027 Points:1,190,750 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Jul 17, 2010 10:30:54 PM Ignore Nicoalbum Report Abuse I agree with BP boycott.
INDY51 Champion Author North Carolina Posts:4,910 Points:961,480 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Jul 17, 2010 6:23:55 PM Ignore INDY51 Report Abuse ABSOLUTELY NOT A PENNY.
Washcloth Veteran Author Portland Posts:345 Points:247,270 Joined:Jul 2010	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2010 12:26:09 PM Ignore Washcloth Report Abuse Hotmamamia, you seem to have misread my post. In the first sentence I say that boycotts ARE effective. However, they have to be thought out. Since BP sold almost all of its retail gas stations, you aren't actually boycotting BP by avoiding those gas stations. BP makes a fraction of its money off of those stations. They make a lot of money by selling their gas to other stations that carry a different name. Some of the stations you listed get their gas from the Murphy Oil Meraux Refinery, a multinational corporation that failed to implement the hurricane plan and resulted in the worse residential crude oil spill in American History. Gas from various oil companies, including BP, gets mixed together at the refinery and before it even gets to the refinery, so you are still most likely supporting BP when you buy gas from anywhere. I would totally boycott BP if there were a sensible way to do that. If you really want to stick it to the man, Hotmamamia, stop buying gas. It takes more effort and imagination, but it can be done. [Edited by: Washcloth at 7/16/2010 12:27:36 PM EST]
hotmamamia Rookie Author Memphis Posts:1 Points:1,870 Joined:Jul 2010	Message Posted: Jul 16, 2010 9:12:11 AM Ignore hotmamamia Report Abuse I disagree with Washcloth that boycotting doesn't effect the oil companies but does hurt the communities and station owners. Well, I'm sorry about the station owners but a boycott on certain oil companies that are doing wrong and have screwed up like BP has, deserves to hit in the pocket, at least as much as we can. People seem to forget that we the consumers have the ability to impact businesses when they are in the wrong, and this is the ONLY tool we really have, other than writing and phoning campaigns to our government officials. But I have found that all my complaints and suggestions that I've sent to ALL my local and national government officials haven't made one bit of difference. Heck, I can't even get them to respond. So YES - Stick it to BP!! And while your at it, stick it to ALL the foreign station owners, because you can bet the majority of their money - OUR money - is going overseas to who knows who!! I stick with retail store gas stations, like Sam's Club, Walmart, Schnucks and Kroger, even LOVE's.
Daddybud Champion Author North Carolina Posts:6,306 Points:1,367,705 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Jul 13, 2010 6:28:57 PM Ignore Daddybud Report Abuse Washcloth, you have given out sound advise. That is what I like to see and read about. Not all the other crap.
Sportsmaster21 Champion Author West Virginia Posts:3,751 Points:572,555 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Jul 13, 2010 3:14:44 PM Ignore Sportsmaster21 Report Abuse I NEVER thought I'd say this to a FNG but Washcloth, that was very well said. Thank you for your input and welcome to GasBuddy.
Washcloth Veteran Author Portland Posts:345 Points:247,270 Joined:Jul 2010	Message Posted: Jul 13, 2010 1:59:59 PM Ignore Washcloth Report Abuse Boycotts are effective in sending a message to other oil companies that screwups like this will not be tolerated. Also, BP is far from being in a position to declare bankruptcy. As one of the most successful oil companies in the world, they have plenty of money at their disposal (even if it were possible to stage a successful boycott) to pay reparations to the US. HOWEVER, as reported in the New York Times and repeated on nearly every post in this topic: Boycotting BP stations only harms small business owners and local communities, since BP has sold off almost all of it's filling stations. ALSO, Almost all gas stations frequently carry BP products, though it's not labeled as such, so no matter where we take our business we are supporting BP. The best way to boycott BP, and reduce our dependence on foreign oil, and to generally improve our quality of life, is to DRIVE LESS whenever possible. /2010/06/12/your-money/12money.html?_r=1&fta=y [Edited by: Washcloth at 7/13/2010 2:01:04 PM EST]
Gas_Buddy Champion Author Maryland Posts:25,984 Points:3,036,015 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Jul 13, 2010 10:13:30 AM Ignore Gas_Buddy Report Abuse eddie31370: I wouldn't read too much into that; gas stations switch brands for a number of reasons, generally when their franchise agreement runs out. To do so sooner is usally costly because you're prematurely cancelling a contract. To switch brands, especially to go to a new franchise, takes time and money; you don't just cancel one contract and sign a new contract immediately afterwards; it's not something done overnight. Before you read too much into the branding change, find out if the previous contract expired, or if there's new ownership, etc.
eddie31370 Champion Author Scranton Posts:1,731 Points:339,440 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 13, 2010 6:26:05 AM Ignore eddie31370 Report Abuse The one and only BP station in my area is now changes to SUNOCO.
Teslukbla Champion Author Missouri Posts:25,317 Points:2,944,845 Joined:Jan 2005	Message Posted: Jul 12, 2010 11:25:28 PM Ignore Teslukbla Report Abuse I have boycotted BP all day today and all day yesterday.....but that is because my tank is still full from filling up at a BP station a couple of days ago. HE HE HE!
Gas_Buddy Champion Author Maryland Posts:25,984 Points:3,036,015 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Jul 11, 2010 9:59:14 PM Ignore Gas_Buddy Report Abuse Wouldn't it be good if fine2000, the person who created this thread, posted something about the comments made to his post? For example, let people know if they've given him insight to change his mind, change his opinion, or why he hasn't changed his opinion?
Teslukbla Champion Author Missouri Posts:25,317 Points:2,944,845 Joined:Jan 2005	Message Posted: Jul 10, 2010 11:38:21 AM Ignore Teslukbla Report Abuse OOPPS! I forgot all about the boycott, and I just filled my tank this morning at a BP station!
PatAZ Champion Author Tucson Posts:9,253 Points:122,460 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Jul 8, 2010 5:37:15 PM Ignore PatAZ Report Abuse None around here but I wouldn't they will need money to pay all the claims.
Sneakers55 Champion Author Houston Posts:51,338 Points:2,145,125 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Jul 6, 2010 6:04:40 PM Ignore Sneakers55 Report Abuse How much of a decline in sales are required before BP franchised dealers are allowed to claim force majeure. Bankruptcy, anyone?
hnofer17 Champion Author Austin Posts:5,380 Points:1,004,605 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Jul 6, 2010 11:14:04 AM Ignore hnofer17 Report Abuse By the way, I'm just curious, how many of you are actually boycotting BP Gas stations?
rumbleseat Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:22,937 Points:3,531,365 Joined:Oct 2002	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2010 2:19:37 AM Ignore rumbleseat Report Abuse It is utter foolishness to boycott station owners Nicoalbum. You have declared BP the devil, but nobody declared them the devil when franchise owners entered into legally binding financial contracts. Heck, put them out of business and pay extra taxes to support them on welfare. Put CITGO franchise holders out of business because you don't like Hugo, and pay welfare to them too, and Exxon franchise holders over the Valdez. Pay welfare to the many thousands of owners and families out of jobs, and pay higher prices for gasoline because the number of major retailers is now down to a virtual monopoly. Then blame the government for high prices, of course.
Nicoalbum Champion Author Ottawa Posts:6,027 Points:1,190,750 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2010 12:37:52 AM Ignore Nicoalbum Report Abuse I totally agree with you. Boycott BP and station owners who struck contracts with the oil devil.
kingofcode Champion Author Florida Posts:1,723 Points:473,965 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Jul 4, 2010 11:26:16 PM Ignore kingofcode Report Abuse Your not really hurting BP but the owners of the Stations that still have to pay BP for the use of their Name etc... The Little guy always get it first....will take years and all BPs closing to hurt BP Company....think before you Boycott BP stations
titanssb Rookie Author St. Louis Posts:25 Points:18,000 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2010 10:15:22 PM Ignore titanssb Report Abuse The people who own and work at your local gas stations aren't at fault and shouldn't be punished
mnrick041 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:14,316 Points:1,370,410 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2010 5:25:17 PM Ignore mnrick041 Report Abuse Most BP stations are independently owned, you are not hurting BP, only the local people who own these stations. Think of it rationally and realize that the majority of oil that BP drills goes to uses other than BP branded stations. BP oil goes into so many uses, you cannot totally boycott products that use oil drilled by BP. I use BP from time to time and I will continue to.
Gas_Buddy Champion Author Maryland Posts:25,984 Points:3,036,015 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Jul 1, 2010 3:31:20 PM Ignore Gas_Buddy Report Abuse Just wondering, INDY51, buy why do you "hope bp goes under"? Forgetting the loss of jobs in the U.S., forgetting the loss of their ability to conduct clean-up, BP going under would create less competition (which ineveitably leads to higher cost) and - because of "going under" as a result of an accident that could have happened to any company drilling offshore - would serve as a deterrent to any company that might consider drilling off-shore, reducing the potential for (perhaps) more reasonably priced petroleum products, as well as increase our dependence on foreign sources. But, the question is, why do you "hope bp goes under"? And, what do you think would be the benefit of it "going under"? Answering those questions might add to the knowledge of other members here as well as provide more intelligent discussion than people simply saying "yes", "no", "boycott", "don't boycott", etc.
INDY51 Champion Author North Carolina Posts:4,910 Points:961,480 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Jul 1, 2010 3:13:06 PM Ignore INDY51 Report Abuse i hope bp goes under.
Skins2010 Rookie Author Miami Posts:7 Points:6,515 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Jul 1, 2010 10:55:56 AM Ignore Skins2010 Report Abuse ALthough boycotts have a time and place for maximum effect you have to reALly look at the effect. If you want to take BP down for being negligent and killing the sea life that is understandable. If your outcome of your anger is have BP clean the mess and financiALly help the victims then boycotting BP will have the opposite effect. The down fALl of BP equALs, loss of american jobs associated with BP, BP could not afford to clean up the mess or help the victims of LA, AL, MS and FL even after liquidating the company and BP failing would cause a backlash in the Market. Not to mention BP has the right to claim bankruptcy, as a private company, to support their stockholders. Not that they would do that. In reALity you should buy BP gas, which is American oil not foreign, so that your money goes indirectly to support the clean up and the victims.
BobD2009 Champion Author Long Island Posts:6,999 Points:1,241,735 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Jul 1, 2010 7:03:16 AM Ignore BobD2009 Report Abuse Glad to that many members realize how foolish what a boycott would be. It's strange how someone like fine2000 starts a thread and you don't hear from then again. Could he be embarrassed that his idea was not a success?
pdxTT Rookie Author Portland Posts:83 Points:15,690 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Jul 1, 2010 4:42:09 AM Ignore pdxTT Report Abuse well....one perspective on this is that they won't be able to meet their obligations to the people, wildlife, and environment in the Gulf if they go bankrupt!
moeasyrider Sophomore Author St. Louis Posts:129 Points:41,270 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Jul 1, 2010 2:49:17 AM Ignore moeasyrider Report Abuse I don't think a boycott of BP stations would accomplish anything against BP, however, you would be hurting the owner of the gas stations.
BCERB Champion Author Victoria Posts:2,297 Points:425,015 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Jul 1, 2010 1:11:19 AM Ignore BCERB Report Abuse What do you suggest RS - besides pacifistic socialism?
Gas_Buddy Champion Author Maryland Posts:25,984 Points:3,036,015 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Jun 30, 2010 4:21:54 PM Ignore Gas_Buddy Report Abuse INDY51: You wrote: "I AGREE 100%" Which do you agree with? fine2000's suggestion of boycotting BP gas stations, or the comments of the majority of people here who believe a gas station boycott is misdirected?
kingofcode Champion Author Florida Posts:1,723 Points:473,965 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Jun 30, 2010 4:02:31 PM Ignore kingofcode Report Abuse its the Station owners that you are hurting NOT BP each station is privately owned and its them you hurt and make more people with out Jobs the BP in Creed wood has laid off 3 people so far
INDY51 Champion Author North Carolina Posts:4,910 Points:961,480 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Jun 30, 2010 2:32:25 PM Ignore INDY51 Report Abuse I AGREE 100%
rumbleseat Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:22,937 Points:3,531,365 Joined:Oct 2002	Message Posted: Jun 30, 2010 7:49:06 AM Ignore rumbleseat Report Abuse Further to my post: the people directly and indirectly affected by the spill, and the resultant loss of business, need help and support, they have been grieviously wronged. They are not at fault. Attacking another group, the BP retailers, does nothing to help the people in the affected areas, it just creates another problem. They are not at fault either. It is the same misguided logic that tells some people at a political protest that it is appropriate to burn cars, destroy private property, and loot stores. 2 wrongs don't make a right.
BCERB Champion Author Victoria Posts:2,297 Points:425,015 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Jun 30, 2010 2:16:09 AM Ignore BCERB Report Abuse The same things can be said regarding this oil spill & it's wide spread effects on friends neighbours and family, local taxpayers, and creators of employment too. Many have everything tied up in their businesses & have suffered a 100% loss including the livelihoods of all of the employees they provide jobs for - all due to this spill. BP has been negligent in the past & present & have proven to be incompetent in cleaning up this mess. I say Shame on BP
rumbleseat Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:22,937 Points:3,531,365 Joined:Oct 2002	Message Posted: Jun 30, 2010 12:53:33 AM Ignore rumbleseat Report Abuse Boycotting BP is hurting retailers. The people with BP franchises are your friends, neighbours, and family. They are local taxpayers, and creators of employment. Those of you that advocate boycotts are attacking these people economically, threatening their livelihood. Some of these people have everything tied up in their businesses. It is reported some stations are suffering a 40% drop in business. This also threatens the livelihood of all of the employees they provide jobs for. Shame on you.
asiqueiros Rookie Author Tucson Posts:22 Points:8,725 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Jun 29, 2010 8:02:06 PM Ignore asiqueiros Report Abuse It seems that people like to say YA YA LETS BOYCOTT BP but there first to go get fuel there @ arco/BP NOT FAIR OR RIGHT & U NO WHO I MEAN
asiqueiros Rookie Author Tucson Posts:22 Points:8,725 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Jun 29, 2010 8:00:49 PM Ignore asiqueiros Report Abuse WHEN PEOPLE ACTUALLY STOP BUYIN INTO BP/ARCO FOR ANYTHING AS OF GAS SODA ETC THEN THEY WILL DO MORE FOR THE GOLF COAST I BELIEVE..
asiqueiros Rookie Author Tucson Posts:22 Points:8,725 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Jun 29, 2010 7:59:32 PM Ignore asiqueiros Report Abuse PEOPLE R ALL TALK I HAVE YET TO SEE ANYONE ACTUALLY BOYCOTT BP/ARCO
Sneakers55 Champion Author Houston Posts:51,338 Points:2,145,125 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Jun 29, 2010 6:22:55 PM Ignore Sneakers55 Report Abuse IMHO, people should do a BUYCOTT on BP. As long as they're taking in money, they can pay for spill cleanup activity. A bankrupt BP can't pay for spill cleanup activity.
Gas_Buddy Champion Author Maryland Posts:25,984 Points:3,036,015 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Jun 29, 2010 10:36:44 AM Ignore Gas_Buddy Report Abuse Okay; I'm somewhat naive, apasya. "I don't like BP policies at all" makes it sound like you disagree with every BP policy; I'm pretty sure thay, as an international company having to meet various and drasticly different international rules, regulations, and laws, have hundreds of policies. You don't like any of them? Not at all? What BP policies are there that you specifically don't like? What changes do you want BP to make? And what if the policies can't reasonably be changed?
apasya Sophomore Author Little Rock Posts:126 Points:175,910 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Jun 29, 2010 10:22:37 AM Ignore apasya Report Abuse I don't like BP policies at all.
jdhelm Champion Author Iowa Posts:11,886 Points:1,200,840 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Jun 29, 2010 9:24:29 AM Ignore jdhelm Report Abuse Well shucks, I wonder where all the fanatical boycotters are? Heck I would have thot that some idiot boycotter would have by now - doused himself in "BP gas" and set himself on fire to do a truly and rightful boycott of BP. I reckon this isn't a seriously thoughtout boycott. ps: yup, I was the guy who put out a 4-1-10 buy no gas sign. However, I did it with tongue in cheek, and in all honesty, my single person boycot had about as much effect as a toothpick boycott by 1 carpenter ant.
rosyLI Champion Author Long Island Posts:5,645 Points:1,070,555 Joined:Apr 2010	Message Posted: Jun 29, 2010 8:31:07 AM Ignore rosyLI Report Abuse Hard to believe anyone is still considering such a stupid boycott. Boycott our own hard working people real bright.
Gas_Buddy Champion Author Maryland Posts:25,984 Points:3,036,015 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Jun 29, 2010 7:56:40 AM Ignore Gas_Buddy Report Abuse I can't believe that the purpose of joining this thread was to make a single post anonymously regarding BP. That said, catfish99 makes sense; is the intent to hurt (first) the BP gas station owners/operators, or to get your point across to BP. But, kiddcruz, let's suppose you do "Boycott BP gas stations, do not give them a penny". What is that accomplishing? What is it you want from your boycott of BP? What is it you're telling BP to do or change in order for you to stop your boycott, or for your boycott to be successful?
catfish99 Champion Author Wilmington Posts:13,989 Points:2,498,475 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jun 29, 2010 5:59:34 AM Ignore catfish99 Report Abuse cruz - No one is arguing that BP is a great company, even though leading up to the blowout they were considered a leader in environmentally friendly methods (the safety of their facilities is a different story, of course). However, most BP stations are independently owned and operated, and often the fuel is sourced from other refiners - just as BP fuel often is sold by retailers with different brands. In my area, almost all of the fuel is refined by Sunoco and Conoco-Phillips. But I have multiple BP stations within 5 miles of my home. Refusing to buy from a station simply because of a BP sign does nothing to affect BP corporate. It does a lot to hurt your community, however.
kiddcruz Rookie Author Orlando Posts:1 Points:120 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Jun 27, 2010 9:50:12 PM Ignore kiddcruz Report Abuse All you guys posting do not live in any of the gulf states, however if you did you would think otherwise. Every day our shore lines are being destroyed but you guys will soon feel it as well. Wait for the hurricanes to hit and gather up all the oil and toxicants and bring it up north. Then when you guys are wheezing or spitting up blood keep buying that BP gas..........