jamieg2012

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Sioux Falls
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Message Posted: Apr 6, 2012 3:36:12 PM
captkenny and other haters
i want to see actual research to back up your claims
so far all i see is opinions trying to pose as facts
people should do others a favor and when making claims back it up with research and not ads and blogs claiming to be research
a opinion is not research and a ad posing as a news site is not research or even news
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diesdown

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Mar 24, 2012 10:08:42 PM
Ok.
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hailsupersport

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2012 10:15:53 AM
yes
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rhail2

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 9:00:04 AM
yep
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hailsupersport

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Mar 18, 2012 8:52:15 AM
yes
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Indian4441

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Mar 17, 2012 2:21:59 PM
not really
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maryph1958

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Mar 17, 2012 1:23:57 PM
yes
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hailsupersport

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Mar 17, 2012 1:19:14 PM
It sure does
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hailsupersport

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2012 9:24:10 AM
yes
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Shockjock1961

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2012 8:31:07 PM
"Because at this stage it is impossible to make enough ethanol to displace all imports"
I guess that dispels the myth that we won't have to have a military by using ethanol...
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rumbleseat

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Winnipeg
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2012 8:26:10 PM
"Then how come, after consuming 40% of our harvested corn crop to make this crap, are we STILL having to import oil?"
Because at this stage it is impossible to make enough ethanol to displace all imports, especially since people are still using Durangoes to go to 7-Eleven, and leaving them idling, to buy cigarettes, and Expeditions to ferry briefcases to the office, all the while sitting in drive-through lines for doughnuts, and lobbying for higher speed limits.
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gamechanger2011

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Wichita
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2012 12:12:59 PM
Pitbull1... You are right. It gets sucked right into my fuel injection system and helps America's independence from foreign oil. Let it keep sucking!
Ditto!
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krzysiek_ck

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2012 11:09:39 AM
Shockjock1961 wrote: "Doesn't seem like it's doing all that much to help "energy independence"..."
Please feel free to prove your statement.
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hailsupersport

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2012 10:59:02 AM
yes
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Shockjock1961

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2012 10:55:56 AM
"It gets sucked right into my fuel injection system and helps America's independence from foreign oil"
Then how come, after consuming 40% of our harvested corn crop to make this crap, are we STILL having to import oil?
Doesn't seem like it's doing all that much to help "energy independence"...
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rumbleseat

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Winnipeg
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2012 6:28:25 AM
ETHANOL SUCKS! that moisture right out of my fuel system so I don't have fuel line freeze-up and don't have to add gas-line anti-freeze (alcohol) to my tank in the winter.
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maryph1958

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 9:26:19 AM
yes
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Pitbull1

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 8:43:24 AM
You are right. It gets sucked right into my fuel injection system and helps America's independence from foreign oil. Let it keep sucking!
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20Yoleven

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 1:42:31 AM
Youbetcha!
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20Yoleven

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2012 1:42:30 AM
Youbetcha!
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hailsupersport

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2012 10:22:44 AM
yes
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maryph1958

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2012 10:09:43 AM
yes
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hailsupersport

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2012 7:41:27 AM
yes
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maryph1958

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2012 7:34:14 AM
yes
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snell snail

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 7:52:54 PM
...worst possible fuel option.....
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rhail2

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 12:43:31 PM
yes
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maryph1958

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2012 12:35:31 PM
yes
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Penny_Pincher

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 2:40:09 PM
I like corn-based ethanol, especially aged in oak barrels for about 12 years.
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maryph1958

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 9:56:03 AM
yes
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mobile21228

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Baltimore
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2012 6:48:58 AM
Yep!
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hailsupersport

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2012 9:57:59 AM
yes
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maryph1958

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2012 9:43:13 AM
yes
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Blondie22OH

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2012 7:32:58 AM
YES. It's bad for all engines.
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rhail2

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2012 1:31:28 AM
yes
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maryph1958

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2012 1:26:43 AM
yes
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maryph1958

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2012 10:12:21 AM
yes
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Edpap

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2012 2:00:08 PM
Yes, it does. I will support it when it is made only from garbage or other waste products, and it is priced right.
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rhail2

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2012 11:10:54 AM
yes
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gamechanger2011

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Wichita
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Message Posted: Mar 2, 2012 10:10:57 AM
Some ethanol fun facts!
"Rockefellers and their oil companies -- back in early 1900 pre-prohibition era -- paid Women's Christian Temperance Union to promote prohibition to reduce the supply of alcohol that some automakers allegedly then said would be a superior automotive fuel. The ostensible alleged reason was to force automakers to develop and sell cars dependent not on alcohol, but on earth oil products produced by the Standard Oil monopoly Most people are not aware that Henry Ford's Model T came in a variation that allowed the driver to switch the carburetor to run the engine on farm-made ethyl alcohol. This allowed the operator to stop at local farms (equipped with stills) to refuel his/her car during long trips through the backcountry. After all- the gas station wasn't exactly as ubiquitous in those days, as it is now. The Standard Oil Company and its industrialist-founder John D. Rockefeller wasn't too happy with this arrangement. After all, Rockefeller's company had a virtual monopoly on gasoline at this time in our nation's development.
Since the late 1800's there had been a growing Alcohol Temperance Movement developing among reformers. Rockefeller saw an opportunity in this. It is well-documented that local efforts to curb alcohol consumption were expanded to the national level when high-profile figures like Rockefeller joined in the anti-alcohol efforts. Was he so concerned with the social problems that abuse of alcohol was said to cause?
No... John D. Rockefeller was not concerned with family dynamics in the working classes. But he was influential in changing the goals of the movement from temperance to prohibition. He gave the equivalent of $60 million in today's dollars to an obscure group pushing for prohibition called the Women's Christian Temperance Union. As we know, his contribution to the outlawing of the production and sale of alcohol was successful. Of course, Rockefeller and the oil companies reaped tremendous profits as a result. Remember that the period covered by the 18th Amendment (1919-1933) coincided with the huge rise in the sale and operation of automobiles. America was on the move, and all of these cars were now operated solely on gasoline. By the time that the 21st Amendment was passed, ending the prohibition of alcohol, the standard was already set and worked completely in the favor of the Rockefeller family."
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hailsupersport

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Mar 2, 2012 9:35:02 AM
yes
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gamechanger2011

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Wichita
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Message Posted: Mar 2, 2012 9:21:48 AM
Get ready... E15 is coming. Looks like all of you against it will have consider it as "taking one for the team". It's a big picture thing people. It's good for our country. Less dependency on foreign oil!
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emtrob2012

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Myrtle Beach
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Message Posted: Mar 2, 2012 2:01:03 AM
yes it does stink
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Pramodsharma

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Richmond
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Message Posted: Mar 1, 2012 9:03:16 PM
Brazil runs on ethanol, How engines of their cars are running good and sound less? Majority of them drive GM and Chrysler cars.
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diesdown

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Mar 1, 2012 5:52:24 PM
Agreed.
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rhail2

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Mar 1, 2012 11:26:09 AM
yes it does
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maryph1958

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Mar 1, 2012 11:20:56 AM
yes
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lanenebraska

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San Jose
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Message Posted: Mar 1, 2012 6:09:55 AM
Darn Corn Stoves and Corn Furnaces, and Naughty Ethanol. The next thing ya know, they'll start using valuable cornstalks to make ethanol from.
Just breaks my heart....NOT! :-D
Corn: It's whats for dinner, and for fuel, and animal feed, and there are millions of tons left-over every year(Surplus). If we need more, the USA just grows more to meet the demand!
USA! USA! USA!
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francescaromana

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Modesto
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Message Posted: Feb 29, 2012 12:31:58 PM
Yes, yes it does.
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hailsupersport

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Feb 29, 2012 10:19:51 AM
yes
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rhail2

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Feb 29, 2012 10:12:50 AM
yes
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