stickyvalves

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Iowa
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Message Posted: Jun 4, 2012 10:02:27 AM
This is old news. I heard Clark speak 3 years at a POET meeting. His success has been limited. Not sure he's been a good choice.
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WEPSMAN

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South Dakota
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Message Posted: Jun 4, 2012 9:07:29 AM
I have seen him speak before. He is a great speaker. Just because he is out promoting E-15, does not mean he believes in it, he is getting paid to promote it.
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gamechanger2011

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Wichita
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Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 11:42:36 AM
haha....me too Bob. You'd really enjoy the film made by Josh and Rebecca Tickell. It's a great pro ethanol documentary called The Freedom Film. You can go to their website...thefreedomfilm.com and order a copy!
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ethanolbob

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 10:37:30 AM
I am glad the General is on our side.
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krzysiek_ck

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Mar 23, 2012 2:37:12 PM
Shockjock1961 wrote: "Actually, you just need to be a good politician, and we know how well politicians can lie when they know they will benefit from it..."
Another "fact" by Shockjock1961.
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Shockjock1961

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Mar 23, 2012 11:52:50 AM
"He was a 4 star general. You have to have some serious conviction to achieve that"
Actually, you just need to be a good politician, and we know how well politicians can lie when they know they will benefit from it...
[Edited by: Shockjock1961 at 3/23/2012 11:53:33 AM EST]
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gamechanger2011

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Message Posted: Mar 23, 2012 11:49:19 AM
My opinion is that he believes in it whole heartedly. I have seen him speak. It's purely speculation as to his intentions. There's no way to know. But from what I've seen....I think that he sincerely believes in it. He was a 4 star general. You have to have some serious conviction to achieve that. I'm going out on a limb here....but he has achieved much more them the average person posting on this site...including myself.
[Edited by: gamechanger2011 at 3/23/2012 11:51:16 AM EST]
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Pede

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Mar 23, 2012 11:38:20 AM
He is a person who wants recognition and will say anything
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reb4

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Mar 23, 2012 8:44:33 AM
Mr Clark has had his controversies in his civilian life. We all make mistakes. But his military experience hardly qualifies him to be an expert on ethanol. Just ask McCain.
[Edited by: reb4 at 3/23/2012 8:45:09 AM EST]
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krzysiek_ck

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Mar 23, 2012 8:22:55 AM
Shockjock1961 wrote: "Of course, If they paid me what they pay the good general to say good things about ethanol, I might be tempted to become a spokesman..."
Why would anyone wanted to pay you? You are doing pretty good job as the Big Oil shill for free.
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Shockjock1961

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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2012 11:42:39 PM
Of course, If they paid me what they pay the good general to say good things about ethanol, I might be tempted to become a spokesman...
But then my good sense would kick in...
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gamechanger2011

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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2012 8:32:32 PM
"The fuel industry has always been competitive," Clark said, "and ethanol has always been superior to gasoline, but we need the opportunity to compete.
Retired Gen. Wesley Clark goes to battle for ethanol
[Edited by: gamechanger2011 at 3/22/2012 8:34:35 PM EST]
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Shockjock1961

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2012 2:31:15 PM
This article is kind of dated, isn't it? After all it was written in July of 2009...
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gamechanger2011

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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2012 1:13:18 PM
Reb4...I am aware of that. He chose to endorse it though. He believes in it. I watched him speak in a documentary.
[Edited by: gamechanger2011 at 3/22/2012 1:14:28 PM EST]
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reb4

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Mar 22, 2012 12:36:01 PM
Clark was hired to be spokes person for the lobbying group who's co chair is ceo of POET
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