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antiguzzle Sophomore Author Wichita Posts:237 Points:20,545 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Apr 3, 2012 3:53:32 PM Ignore antiguzzle Report Abuse While I have a lot of fun posting articles that challenge the wisdom of ethanol used as a fuel on here -- if for nothing else than to just irritate the small group of resident fanatics who many times allow their passion to replace rational thinking -- I do have a serious opinion on the issue. I think we should all be using electric cars charged on a power grid fueled by nuclear power plants. No coal, no Petroleum, no ethanol, no hydrogen, no wind, no nothing. Once we learn how to fully tap into solar energy, we can close down the nuclear plants. So if I was in charge of things, I would be directing all the government research money into battery/charging technology so we can get reasonably priced battery cars out to the public with 200-300 mile ranges. Once that is done, air pollution, noise pollution, and much of the water pollution will be a thing of the past. And now you ask me what to do with all the spent uranium rods when they start to stack up? Send them up on a rocket; destination: the sun. Fini

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While I have a lot of fun posting articles that challenge the wisdom of ethanol used as a fuel on here -- if for nothing else than to just irritate the small group of resident fanatics who many times allow their passion to replace rational thinking -- I do have a serious opinion on the issue.

I think we should all be using electric cars charged on a power grid fueled by nuclear power plants. No coal, no Petroleum, no ethanol, no hydrogen, no wind, no nothing. Once we learn how to fully tap into solar energy, we can close down the nuclear plants.

So if I was in charge of things, I would be directing all the government research money into battery/charging technology so we can get reasonably priced battery cars out to the public with 200-300 mile ranges. Once that is done, air pollution, noise pollution, and much of the water pollution will be a thing of the past.

And now you ask me what to do with all the spent uranium rods when they start to stack up? Send them up on a rocket; destination: the sun.

Fini

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gamechanger2011 Champion Author Wichita Posts:1,597 Points:57,035 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: May 11, 2012 11:49:52 AM Ignore gamechanger2011 Report Abuse haha Reb4....you know that he meant mpg.
reb4 Champion Author Chicago Posts:19,361 Points:1,849,825 Joined:Sep 2004	Message Posted: May 11, 2012 7:55:31 AM Ignore reb4 Report Abuse furball, good for you on using 60% on your non ffv PT Cruiser... Glad you drive down in Missouri... I try to drive the speed limit on the highway and I know it's not 25 MPH...
furball64801 Champion Author Missouri Posts:4,314 Points:113,265 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: May 10, 2012 10:46:23 PM Ignore furball64801 Report Abuse I love it that you hate ethanol, just more for me to use. Each chance I get I run it in my 2005 Pt Cruiser non ffv and has had no repairs of any kind running a 60% plus mix. No matter what you say or print will not change my use and I get 25 mph on the highway.
Banjoe Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:4,461 Points:641,595 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: May 8, 2012 8:09:31 AM Ignore Banjoe Report Abuse antiguzzle - I was with you right up to "directing the government". Unless you're going to direct them to get out of the way, these are just about the last people we want running things in the real world. Their quick tossing of money at problems just skews the science by making everyone chase the grants and grab as much of that free cash as quickly as possible. The free market has to produce technologies that actually make sense and not just meet subsidy guidelines. Nuclear is a clear winner at this point of human development. Japan has just turned their back on the future and it will be interesting to see the fallout there. Sorry about 'fallout', I should have said outcome. Solar and other similar technologies have a way to go before they are cost effective and efficient so your idea of running on nuclear during the development phase is excellent. Unfortunately, the overabundance of natural gas will now slow down development of alternate technologies but this will still happen when needed.....unless the government gets involved of course. Keep those good thoughts coming.
SilverStreaker Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:12,075 Points:2,244,080 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 10:41:21 PM Ignore SilverStreaker Report Abuse "Once that is done, air pollution, noise pollution, and much of the water pollution will be a thing of the past." You expect that batteries can be produced without any kind of pollution? "And now you ask me what to do with all the spent uranium rods when they start to stack up? Send them up on a rocket; destination: the sun." Are your rockets going to be electric powered also or don't you think any pollution is generated from launching rockets?
GM1954 Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,950 Points:131,880 Joined:Dec 2004	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 6:24:07 PM Ignore GM1954 Report Abuse "So if I was in charge of things, I would be directing all the government research money into battery/charging technology so we can get reasonably priced battery cars out to the public with 200-300 mile ranges." Thats great if society could survive moving only payloads of 100 to 400 pounds. But, if you want clothes to wear, food to eat, homes to live in, the producers of these products still need to move payloads of 100,000 pounds and more. That's going to be hard to do with batteries. By the time the government has spent enough money to develop these power sources, private sector will have perfected the teleporter. "Once that is done, air pollution, noise pollution, and much of the water pollution will be a thing of the past." Wow, the power of the electric car. I'm just guessing. But, once everyone is forced into an electric car, the size of a refrigerator, the planet will still have air pollution, noise pollution, and water pollution.
antiguzzle Sophomore Author Wichita Posts:237 Points:20,545 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 4:54:53 PM Ignore antiguzzle Report Abuse Yes!
tattoo666TX Champion Author Texas Posts:2,567 Points:344,480 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Apr 5, 2012 11:59:57 AM Ignore tattoo666TX Report Abuse The problem is not how to tap into solar power. The problem is the technology used for batteries to hold the charge. One of the most worked on problems with portable electronics is battery life between charges. Think laptops and smart phones. Now take something like a car that takes that much more power to run and look at what we have for batteries to hold the charge. That is the problem. No one wants to go on a trip, drive 100-300 miles and have to park and charge over night to continue on the trip.
rumbleseat Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:23,066 Points:3,550,100 Joined:Oct 2002	Message Posted: Apr 5, 2012 9:00:09 AM Ignore rumbleseat Report Abuse "nuclear energy powered electric cars can easily take care of our problems for 100 years or more." They will get right on that in Fukishima.
Daurel Veteran Author Indiana Posts:319 Points:33,270 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: Apr 4, 2012 1:09:58 PM Ignore Daurel Report Abuse What planet are you on???
krzysiek_ck Champion Author Illinois Posts:5,500 Points:756,835 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Apr 4, 2012 11:11:29 AM Ignore krzysiek_ck Report Abuse The first step - buy DeLorean DMC-12.
OceanArcher Champion Author Mississippi Posts:5,841 Points:1,355,060 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Apr 4, 2012 8:47:42 AM Ignore OceanArcher Report Abuse Only one problem with your method of disposal of the spent nuclear rods - occsionally, rockets fail ...
wildman62 Rookie Author Maryland Posts:9 Points:730 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Apr 3, 2012 7:24:29 PM Ignore wildman62 Report Abuse Me thinks you are full of crap!
antiguzzle Sophomore Author Wichita Posts:237 Points:20,545 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Apr 3, 2012 5:24:39 PM Ignore antiguzzle Report Abuse "Huh. One of the biggest complains of the Anti-Ethanol(TM) crowd is that ethanol has been around for 30 years and it's still not perfected. Geez, how long has solar been around? Good luck getting that past your fellow Anti-Ethanol fanatics, antiguzzle." I don't care if it takes 100 years, nuclear energy powered electric cars can easily take care of our problems for 100 years or more. Oh, and ethanol is a joke.
jacksfan Champion Author Lincoln Posts:2,556 Points:1,245,595 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Apr 3, 2012 5:10:53 PM Ignore jacksfan Report Abuse "Once we learn how to fully tap into solar energy" Huh. One of the biggest complains of the Anti-Ethanol(TM) crowd is that ethanol has been around for 30 years and it's still not perfected. Geez, how long has solar been around? Good luck getting that past your fellow Anti-Ethanol fanatics, antiguzzle.
timmyC4 Veteran Author Twin Cities Posts:417 Points:60,600 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Apr 3, 2012 4:19:57 PM Ignore timmyC4 Report Abuse I like it !