honda0105

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Message Posted: May 4, 2012 5:59:58 AM
bitumen based oil products will eventually dry up as the vast tar sand pits are eventually too deep to dig.
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des7902

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Virginia
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 1:46:19 PM
yatta, yatta, yatta, yatta.
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DTrainCanada

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Saskatoon
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 11:28:30 AM
Not as dirty as they say ...
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sjf238

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Philadelphia
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 10:40:44 AM
OK
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A2J

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Richmond
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 9:18:04 AM
Indeed..,
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58salty

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Jacksonville
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 9:00:32 AM
Good, Now help at the pump please
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bar1035

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Charlotte
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 8:50:46 AM
excellent
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johntxx

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Texas
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 8:35:32 AM
Some common sense reported in this article: "More importantly, the industry says the pipeline companies would not agree to carry this stuff if it really was destroying their systems.
"No pipeline operator would want to spend billions of dollars to transport something their pipeline can't handle," said Andy Black, president of the U.S.-based Association of Oil Pipe Lines.
Plus, he said refineries, which are basically a massive twist of steel pipes, would not want this stuff if it really was more corrosive."
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FPLREP

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Virginia
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 8:05:58 AM
I want to protect the environment when it is warranted, but the "greenies" are out of control.
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JoLarr

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Ottawa
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 7:44:31 AM
Yes, trust the far left lobby advocates like Suzuki, Green Peace, Tyee, Gore, Castro etc. etc. Those who regularly prostrate themselves to drive their proven unscientific ideology - for the sake of the earth. No! For the sake of their wallets and an completely out of touch ideology. Many of whom are funded by the same source! It isn't a multiple of individual concerns being raised, but rather one voice being parroted by band waggoners taking what they hear from their sources as the gospel truth. Yes, many who have never taken the time to put all the facts together and ponder/research those results and let some common sense govern their conclussions. Rather, trust the personal agendas of a fruit fly scientist (who – it has been reported, has been caught regularily embellishing the truth and admitted to it) or an organization who "rejects" good science in favour of their own agenda according to one of the co-founders of Green Peace who left them and now speaks out against them on behalf of the oil sands. Interestingly enough, he was the only real scientist with a true formal scientific background of the subject matter on the board of directors. Yes, bad mouth him for being honest and subject knowledgable and not those climate change zealots(not climatologists) – again, with no formal education who predicted total doom and gloom – Gore comes to mind. Oh, btw way, many of those key players are now saying they were wrong and went way over board with their predictions (chemist James Lovelock). And others who have admitted to even willingly falsifing reports and collected data to perpetuate their ideological agenda. Why? Because the lies caught up to them and the truth will always will out. Yes, lets all rush out and buy fuel from those whose "sole" mission is to destroy us and our way of life. Yes, buy from OPEC, and fund terrorism and dictator despots who deny their people human rights by buying their “conflict oil.” From reports I’ve read/heard the oil sands crude is no worse than Californian crude or Venezuelan crude. Why buy from a “trusted” source, an ally? One who leads the oil industry in transparency by reporting honest, provable facts and “clean earth” policies. When have you seen this from OPEC countries...NEVER! A country who believes in personal freedoms and equality for all - much like the US. Yes, lets be like China and all wear masks and who walks all over human rights and freedoms or the middle east who treat women lower than dogs.. Oh yes, and who wants to not only destroy our way of life, but us as well. Another well thought out plan by the extreme left...again! NOT!
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ktyson13

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Maryland
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 7:11:54 AM
Drill baby drill!
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JoLarr

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Ottawa
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 7:00:21 AM
As for Canada refining it themselves, good idea. Wish we did – because the real money/jobs is in the refining processes not so much the raw product. As is the case with many industries.
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ReddevilNO

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New Orleans
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 6:52:52 AM
Okay, so clean it.
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LeeFree

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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 6:27:01 AM
harleydoctor - I'm tired of seeing my hard earned dollars going into the hands of foreign nations and billionaires. If your life is easier to take when you can blame Obama for all your troubles then so be it. Neither party is going to stem the flow of wealth from the working class to the ultra-rich. If you believe otherwise you're just kidding yourself.
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cheapertvs

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Richmond
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 6:25:54 AM
Normally when one speaks of Bitumen, one is looking at a coal derivative. This substance has to have the consistency of caramel.
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prcoqui

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Maryland
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 6:25:47 AM
Importing dirty oil while exorting gas. Go figure.
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pbear316

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Akron
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 6:17:54 AM
Thanks for the definition, Mandrake
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lindact

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New Haven
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 6:17:52 AM
So why are we exporting our oil ?!
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harleydoctor

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Kansas
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 6:16:57 AM
LeeFree- Let me guess, your a Odumbo supporter.........
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Mandrake

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Alabama
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 6:13:36 AM
For those not familiar with "bitumen":
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitumen
Petroleum is considered "sweet" if it contains less than 0.5% sulfur.
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LeeFree

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Pittsburgh
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 6:13:25 AM
Kind of like a junkie using dirty heroin when the pure stuff gets too expensive or hard to find. Oil is an addiction this country refuses to address.
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dr047

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 6:12:39 AM
It's a fact! This stuff is like tar and acidic which tends to Eat Pipes.
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Jeffro61

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 6:10:08 AM
All oil is dirty. Just refine it and shut the greenies mouths.
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dar 1

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Michigan
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 6:08:30 AM
Lets get rid of the GREENIES FIRST.............
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SavingInNC

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 6:07:07 AM
Lord have Mercy on us.
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bullet226

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Toronto
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 6:06:34 AM
Middel east oil is called sweet - less toxins
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Dabozz53

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 6:06:34 AM
Really.
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jeskibuff

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Tampa
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 6:06:25 AM
rumbleseat said: "if the US doesn't want it, China does, and since they already built upgraded refineries to handle Venezuelan crude, they have no problem figuring out the refining of oil sands crude. The stall on the Keystone pipeline spurred exploration of other markets for our oil."
Yep, in the greenie zeal to block the pipeline, Obozo essentially killed the potential for jobs here in the U.S. and transferred them overseas. And people wonder why the recovery is so sluggish!? This kind of job-killing mentality does absolutely nothing but export opportunities to other countries.
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LanguageMan1

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Tampa
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 6:05:52 AM
As I said before, we should be drilling more for oil here at home, especially ON LAND rather than offshore, and to move forward with ALL alternatives.
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grandamgt1

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Illinois
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 6:04:14 AM
Ummm isn't all oil dirty?
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NedW

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 6:03:22 AM
More reason to drill here.
[Edited by: NedW at 5/1/2012 6:03:57 AM EST]
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DrivingFool2

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Appleton
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 6:03:22 AM
Big oil's dirty little secret
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ds531

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Texas
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 6:01:17 AM
Sad
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wrunner

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Virginia
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 5:59:42 AM
Dirty oil needs to be cleaned up.
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jeff95519

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California
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 5:59:34 AM
do what you gota do
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johntxx

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Texas
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 5:59:31 AM
Repost from yesterday: U.S. 'dirty oil' imports set to triple
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fltdoc

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Oklahoma
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 5:59:31 AM
CNN and their ilk will always refer to it as dirty oil. Of course they think all oil is dirty, so given any chance, they will refer to it as such.
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Dailyrun

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 5:58:06 AM
greed rules
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Zuman

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New York
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 5:57:30 AM
Screw the greenies.
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silverfox63

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Michigan
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 5:57:26 AM
This makes no sense at all.
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padlocks2

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Virginia
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 5:56:38 AM
Ok
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Petrock

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Lexington
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 5:56:00 AM
We need to let the Canadians deal with the environmental issues associated with the oil extraction. We cannot dictate policy to all the other countries in the world.
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chevellefan

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Georgia
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 5:53:56 AM
k
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smqua

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 5:51:16 AM
OK, stop importing
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Beau2140

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New York
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 5:50:34 AM
Doesn't sound good.
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LuckyD43

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Long Island
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 5:49:24 AM
This is just another excuse to justify importing oil from OPEC, which I guess is "clean oil'. If the oil companies exported less oil products overseas, and kept it here for OUR use, we wouldn't NEED to import oil.
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paul12011

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Chicago
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 5:48:17 AM
not good
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guru36525

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Montgomery
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 5:46:55 AM
up from the ground comes the bubbling crude---oil that is..black gold
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cookined

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Maine
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 5:45:10 AM
These environmentalists nut jobs need to find there own PLANT and leave us alone. And Sierra club needs the be dismantled.
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scottydoesnt

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Chicago
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 5:44:29 AM
Why doesn't Canada simply refine themselves ? Because no one will buy from them ?
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