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Los Angeles will end use of coal-fired power

Reuters.com -- Thu Jul 2, 2009 4:33pm EDT
By Bernie Woodall

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Los Angeles will eliminate the use of electricity made from coal by 2020, replacing it with power from cleaner renewable energy sources, Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa said.

"LADWP will deliver 40 percent renewable power, with the remainder coming from natural gas, nuclear, and large hydroelectric," said Villaraigosa.

Coal and natural gas-fired power now account for 76 percent of the electricity delivered by the LADWP. By 2020, the LADWP expects to cut its carbon emissions by up to 60 percent from 1990 levels, according to the mayor's office.

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Art48 Champion Author Sacramento Posts:2,449 Points:80,900 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 9:33:38 PM Ignore Art48 Report Abuse Those of you who support "Clean Coal" should volunteer to take the byproduct "Fly Ash" a known carcinogen and spread it in your yards for your children to play in, and live near enough to the plants to get daily doses of the acid fumes produced. I'm sure you will be happy with your lowre electric bills offsetting your higher heath costs.
kruk Champion Author London Posts:2,843 Points:332,715 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 9:29:27 PM Ignore kruk Report Abuse wow, looks like they have more money then know what to do with them - or they are just bankrupt because they didn't know how to use common sense in first place - it is interesting - we will hear it again
Iversonfan All-Star Author Richmond Posts:889 Points:61,340 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 9:29:04 PM Ignore Iversonfan Report Abuse i was reading something where they can get power from all the heat that is build up when cars travel on the highway.. this would be free energy and from what i heard would be enough to give us all the power we need in this country .. i believe this project was not allowed to proceed .. lets take a second to think about why ..
DEG Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:12,803 Points:2,543,205 Joined:Jul 2003	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 9:28:56 PM Ignore DEG Report Abuse Wind turbines and solar on the tall buildings in/around the Los Angeles area as well as the hills should provide a significant amount of power.
CUBBUC Champion Author Florida Posts:3,123 Points:425,040 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 9:27:35 PM Ignore CUBBUC Report Abuse After ANOTHER STUPID DECISION....is it any wonder why the SORRY state of CALIFORNIA is the latest new "BANANA REPUBLIC" ??
jeromehasbargen Champion Author Minnesota Posts:1,903 Points:378,805 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 9:24:23 PM Ignore jeromehasbargen Report Abuse Wind power and solar power could replace all of the coal-fired power plants if they do it right. As long as they don't have too much of a problem with the "not in my back yard" syndrom that is so common with efforts to put up wind farms and solar farms.
Focus2 Champion Author Illinois Posts:3,999 Points:1,210,905 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 9:24:03 PM Ignore Focus2 Report Abuse At least California has a plan and won't sit idle and do nothing. It sounds like they will be on coal until the alternative energy is developed which is wise. We should be going to natural gas in cars. Just announced tonight, St. Louis Chrysler plant that builds the Dodge Ram is closing. They will continue to build the trucks but not here. It is going to Mexico. They are boxing up the parts here and shipping them to Mexico. This is their idea of restructuring! We loan them tax dollars and they move and give our jobs to foreigners. I won't be buying any more Chrysler vehicles! Since China won't participate in clean air, I plan on helping them cut down on pollution, by not buying things they make that are sold here.
SSchmidty Champion Author Illinois Posts:4,311 Points:815,365 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 9:22:37 PM Ignore SSchmidty Report Abuse Another good thing
PissedCanuck Champion Author Toronto Posts:3,818 Points:816,630 Joined:Nov 2006	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 9:22:27 PM Ignore PissedCanuck Report Abuse In other words, they'll be importing more power from the other nearby states and Mexico. That's one way to become more energy dependant. This whole nonsense of going green is going to cost us all in the long run unless some common sense is put into these so-called green initiatives.
FuelBarge Champion Author Long Island Posts:4,138 Points:1,094,265 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 9:21:21 PM Ignore FuelBarge Report Abuse Why give the transportation agency a break? They can fund the highways too.
chipcheap Rookie Author Los Angeles Posts:95 Points:290,355 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 9:21:05 PM Ignore chipcheap Report Abuse Are there more drastic ways to just cut the smog that we breathe here in Los Angeles?
altima2008 Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:3,224 Points:764,685 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 9:14:22 PM Ignore altima2008 Report Abuse If you want to clean up Los Angeles make every highway a toll road and charge people who don't work in the tnsportation industry a tax everymonth to drive their cars!!
sickboy774 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:2,658 Points:550,870 Joined:Sep 2007	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 9:11:05 PM Ignore sickboy774 Report Abuse they should be concentrating on a desalinization plant. [Edited by: sickboy774 at 7/2/2009 9:11:14 PM EST]
playtimeCLE Champion Author Cleveland Posts:3,175 Points:589,710 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 9:10:43 PM Ignore playtimeCLE Report Abuse LA does need to clean its air somehow.
Lavinia Rookie Author California Posts:72 Points:136,665 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 9:06:44 PM Ignore Lavinia Report Abuse So LA is going green? That is hard to believe. Higher enegy costs? Perhaps. We may all face higher power bills soon. Put up those solar panels. They may be profitable soon.
Romey08 Champion Author Virginia Posts:1,919 Points:566,350 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 9:04:08 PM Ignore Romey08 Report Abuse This why CA has the highest energy prices in the continental US
DancingDee Champion Author Gary Posts:2,631 Points:681,180 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 8:58:45 PM Ignore DancingDee Report Abuse Good-I hope the trend continues!
NatureBoyKY Champion Author Kentucky Posts:1,875 Points:616,940 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 8:53:23 PM Ignore NatureBoyKY Report Abuse Good Job, LA. Mexico! Mexico! Mexico!
357revo Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:11,380 Points:1,408,170 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 8:52:37 PM Ignore 357revo Report Abuse When the people figure out what these stupid sustainability laws due to their electric bills, hopefully they will vote the Big Green crowd out on their collective asses.
streetcars Champion Author Toledo Posts:7,274 Points:1,640,695 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 8:51:41 PM Ignore streetcars Report Abuse And I thought the electric bill was high in NW Ohio.
CoffeeTrader Champion Author Victoria Posts:2,412 Points:443,680 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 8:51:38 PM Ignore CoffeeTrader Report Abuse Well there is a good start to cleaner air....why wait so long though.
TRAIN RIDER Champion Author San Bernardino Posts:4,246 Points:1,791,140 Joined:Oct 2004	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 8:41:59 PM Ignore TRAIN RIDER Report Abuse AND OF COURSE WITH THE ENERGY BILL WHEN IT IS PASSED IT WILL RAISE THE COST OF OUR ELECTRICITY.
jay4 Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:5,792 Points:1,326,080 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 8:39:11 PM Ignore jay4 Report Abuse Smart decision, given the rising cost of shipping coal from the Rocky Mountains. Southern California has been a leader in wind and solar power. As for more hydroelectric, where? The Colorado River is at full capacity as is the Columbia River.
gibber73 Sophomore Author Columbus Posts:165 Points:208,150 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 8:24:29 PM Ignore gibber73 Report Abuse Yeah Right
OKRifle Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:4,855 Points:845,070 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 8:22:49 PM Ignore OKRifle Report Abuse You have got's to be kidding!
snewwee Champion Author Detroit Posts:4,969 Points:1,010,105 Joined:Sep 2007	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 8:20:17 PM Ignore snewwee Report Abuse Somehow I don't see Pelosi being an advocate of nuclear power near Los Angeles.
heysailor Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:4,640 Points:1,353,870 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 8:15:32 PM Ignore heysailor Report Abuse This is called progress in the best sense.
letmathe Champion Author Chicago Posts:9,997 Points:2,281,615 Joined:May 2001	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 8:13:28 PM Ignore letmathe Report Abuse Certainly hope it works!
Vette1967 Champion Author Albany Posts:1,384 Points:326,195 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 8:12:43 PM Ignore Vette1967 Report Abuse Good Luck LADWP....Show the rest of the country how it's done. I'm marking my calendar.
RobRD Champion Author Alberta Posts:3,828 Points:896,020 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 8:11:57 PM Ignore RobRD Report Abuse That is pretty ambitious plan to change over in 11 years.
pigmanTX Champion Author Houston Posts:1,281 Points:369,735 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 8:11:04 PM Ignore pigmanTX Report Abuse Ambitious plan. Lets see how it plays out.
1fulltank Champion Author Buffalo Posts:2,980 Points:575,900 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 8:07:52 PM Ignore 1fulltank Report Abuse Let's see it. 9 years to go.
captngasTN Champion Author Tennessee Posts:1,730 Points:424,265 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 8:02:47 PM Ignore captngasTN Report Abuse And their form of payment for this transition - IOU
thomas41546 Champion Author Tennessee Posts:3,014 Points:1,375,750 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 8:02:00 PM Ignore thomas41546 Report Abuse wait until they see the bill for this project
RAC110 Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:2,343 Points:1,161,685 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 8:01:43 PM Ignore RAC110 Report Abuse by then they will have some story of why they could not do this but will success come up later
MINER Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:8,426 Points:2,468,370 Joined:Jul 2002	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 8:00:12 PM Ignore MINER Report Abuse Good luck California, I'm rootin for ya...
dinahf Champion Author Kansas City Posts:9,100 Points:1,398,110 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 7:54:28 PM Ignore dinahf Report Abuse There is no such thing as "clean coal"! Coal is a pollutant..albeit a resource found here at home and not imported from elsewhere...but a dirty addition to the air nonetheless.In states that have waterways(& what state doesn't!)...they need to make better use of hydroelectric-power..clean power from natural falling water...what could be simpler?
truckguy115 All-Star Author Orange County Posts:855 Points:141,695 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 7:50:02 PM Ignore truckguy115 Report Abuse god california is truly the land of fruits and nuts. more nuts than fruits.
MissRita Champion Author Austin Posts:1,040 Points:423,790 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 7:48:46 PM Ignore MissRita Report Abuse Get the sun and the wind to work US
kidrockTX Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:3,854 Points:507,845 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 7:45:13 PM Ignore kidrockTX Report Abuse he's trying to buy votes and why so much time for this already 76% is other sources.it takes 10+ years to change 24% to other sources
ach All-Star Author Illinois Posts:654 Points:331,125 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 7:40:54 PM Ignore ach Report Abuse The air is not the only thing they need to clean up in California.
Beboper Champion Author Virginia Posts:3,752 Points:1,182,410 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 7:40:00 PM Ignore Beboper Report Abuse we shall see
OKRifle Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:4,855 Points:845,070 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 7:37:14 PM Ignore OKRifle Report Abuse Why could I care less about what happens in Liberal Los Angeles?
checkum Champion Author St. Louis Posts:3,330 Points:659,465 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 7:36:57 PM Ignore checkum Report Abuse all talk. is he up for re-election?
JCUBE Champion Author Michigan Posts:3,536 Points:945,125 Joined:Aug 2003	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 7:35:21 PM Ignore JCUBE Report Abuse Typical of those California Freaks.
Doubleeez Champion Author Connecticut Posts:2,727 Points:542,490 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 7:34:47 PM Ignore Doubleeez Report Abuse Don't forget to check back in 2020 and see how they're doing.
john382 Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,531 Points:1,510,825 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 7:33:23 PM Ignore john382 Report Abuse we may not be here in 2020 the waht things are going right now.
DieselDriverNY Rookie Author Rochester Posts:62 Points:72,135 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 7:29:56 PM Ignore DieselDriverNY Report Abuse They will have put a windmill on everycorner to produce 40% of LA's power
GasMiserAZ Champion Author Phoenix Posts:12,056 Points:698,425 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 7:29:11 PM Ignore GasMiserAZ Report Abuse "LADWP will deliver 40 percent renewable power, with the remainder coming from natural gas, nuclear, and large hydroelectric," said Villaraigosa. . . . Nuclear and hydroelectric IS renewable energy. [Edited by: GasMiserAZ at 7/2/2009 7:32:09 PM EST]
OTISFL All-Star Author Pensacola Posts:828 Points:148,380 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 7:27:41 PM Ignore OTISFL Report Abuse Who can predict what will happen in 2020? They can't even give accurate predictions for the next day!!
GasMiserAZ Champion Author Phoenix Posts:12,056 Points:698,425 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 7:24:44 PM Ignore GasMiserAZ Report Abuse By 2020 we will be converting coal into clean burning methane and burning that in power plants, so Mayor Villaraigosa is just spouting "vote gettings".
Helms Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:4,229 Points:1,222,775 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Jul 2, 2009 7:18:07 PM Ignore Helms Report Abuse sure....with a statewide deficit abandon the cheapest energy source there is....no less smog until people stop driving to go to the bathroom out there....