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Better to buy new?

Santa Rosa Press Democrat -- Save money and help save the planet — buy a new car.

What sounds like an automobile industry marketing mantra actually comes from the Natural Resources Defense Council, a 1.3-million member environmental organization known for zealously guarding the air, land, water and wildlife.

In a new report, “Relieving Pain at the Pump,” the council recommends as a remedy for $4 a gallon gasoline that consumers check out a “bumper crop of fuel-efficient cars” now in dealer showrooms.

“Drivers can start saving money immediately by trading in their gas guzzlers for today’s gas sippers,” the report says, noting there are 57 domestic and foreign models for 2012 that get better than 20 miles per gallon, including 15 at more than 30 mpg.

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Submitted Apr 30, 2012 By: fordfreak

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blazerbob91 Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:6,125 Points:1,879,670 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 11:30:16 PM Ignore blazerbob91 Report Abuse Who can afford new.
mfeldstein Champion Author Ottawa Posts:8,161 Points:1,928,430 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 11:30:14 PM Ignore mfeldstein Report Abuse I've done very well buying last year's low mileage demos from dealers. Great cars and big savings.
bif65 Champion Author Virginia Posts:1,023 Points:194,880 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 11:27:25 PM Ignore bif65 Report Abuse ok
suzmar Champion Author Texas Posts:2,210 Points:869,225 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 11:25:31 PM Ignore suzmar Report Abuse This doesn't make sense, you should spend a lot of money to save a little on fuel? They must work for the government.
snappytom2 Champion Author Corpus Christi Posts:3,532 Points:273,790 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 11:22:39 PM Ignore snappytom2 Report Abuse Who can afford a new car?
BKool Champion Author Michigan Posts:5,243 Points:1,896,305 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 11:22:31 PM Ignore BKool Report Abuse There's a lack of wisdom in that organization that professes to "protect" and then releases an ill thought out report. If they failed to think their report through to it's logical end, then might they be duped in their thinking about "protecting" anything?
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:7,907 Points:1,571,955 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 11:22:30 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse sounds like a study funded by the auto industry
MDTDriver Champion Author California Posts:9,709 Points:2,151,620 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 11:21:09 PM Ignore MDTDriver Report Abuse Natural Resources Defense Council can pay for mine if you please.
tippybuddy Champion Author Ontario Posts:1,523 Points:207,740 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 11:20:42 PM Ignore tippybuddy Report Abuse my Van is new enough don't need a new one and couldn't afford new anyway
UseLessGasFolks Champion Author Iowa Posts:5,426 Points:1,291,850 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 11:19:45 PM Ignore UseLessGasFolks Report Abuse Have to try to factor in what gas prices are going to do for the next 10 years.
knot2swift Champion Author Calgary Posts:4,374 Points:695,250 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 11:18:23 PM Ignore knot2swift Report Abuse Been there, done that! 2 1/2 years ago I bought a car that used 25% less gas. Guess where the savings went? High insurance rates! Yes, I did the world as well as my insurance company a favor.
justmedc Veteran Author Michigan Posts:382 Points:174,045 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 11:18:02 PM Ignore justmedc Report Abuse will keep the mazda 6 for now. looking for another with good mpg for the kid. will not get new
petrpuck All-Star Author Hamilton Posts:559 Points:415,610 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 11:18:00 PM Ignore petrpuck Report Abuse I would have to agree
idigau22 Champion Author Washington Posts:23,384 Points:3,197,985 Joined:Apr 2003	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 11:14:46 PM Ignore idigau22 Report Abuse Hey! This administration is telling the news media the Economy is Booming!!! Get off your duff and go buy a new vehicle with all that extra cash you are making and saving! After all, life has never been better!!
Ray_10589 Champion Author New York Posts:4,926 Points:1,179,735 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 11:12:24 PM Ignore Ray_10589 Report Abuse agree ..
mconley1967 All-Star Author Louisville Posts:586 Points:357,230 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 11:04:54 PM Ignore mconley1967 Report Abuse Ok
listerone Champion Author Boston Posts:3,365 Points:874,990 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 11:04:38 PM Ignore listerone Report Abuse decent used cars cost big money these days.
chicoCA Champion Author California Posts:1,960 Points:1,770,530 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 11:04:15 PM Ignore chicoCA Report Abuse I'll stick with my 07 for a couple more years
drz614 Champion Author Harrisburg Posts:2,284 Points:594,595 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 10:59:29 PM Ignore drz614 Report Abuse ok
THX138 Champion Author San Francisco Posts:2,544 Points:1,010,985 Joined:Apr 2010	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 10:59:27 PM Ignore THX138 Report Abuse k
Sisu58 Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,267 Points:353,990 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 10:54:24 PM Ignore Sisu58 Report Abuse It's just not in the cards for the foreseeable future no matter how fuel efficient they are.
Killerbabydoll Champion Author Tucson Posts:1,248 Points:545,195 Joined:Sep 2010	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 10:50:08 PM Ignore Killerbabydoll Report Abuse its better to buy new but keep it for a while until you can get a way better car dont just keep trading in a car every 2 years just because something better came out. you will just cause your self to go into debt with all the trade-ins.
HawaiianGuy Champion Author Idaho Posts:9,508 Points:3,075,700 Joined:May 2003	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 10:48:52 PM Ignore HawaiianGuy Report Abuse Hey, Al! I Love my Carbon Footprint!
CHEAPERBETTER Veteran Author Lansing Posts:416 Points:714,595 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 10:42:46 PM Ignore CHEAPERBETTER Report Abuse Mileage gains and new technology is coming so fast that you wonder if buying now is the answer. If I wait will it get even better? Maybe leasing is the way to go. Just turn it back in and get a newer, better mileage car every couple of years.
camaro_man Champion Author Kitchener-Waterloo Posts:2,212 Points:607,045 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 10:42:33 PM Ignore camaro_man Report Abuse just picked up new CRUZE tonight...
gmcgas Champion Author Atlanta Posts:5,935 Points:1,710,355 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 10:40:10 PM Ignore gmcgas Report Abuse gas mileage is never the reason to buy a new car =, to replace a good car that you already own. even if it doubles mileage, it will take years to break even.
DeeLA Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:4,797 Points:1,361,330 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 10:37:35 PM Ignore DeeLA Report Abuse Bring the prices down a lot and I might consider one.
Mermaan Champion Author Boston Posts:1,572 Points:421,235 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 10:31:45 PM Ignore Mermaan Report Abuse I will never buy a new car, ever.
boborobot All-Star Author Michigan Posts:501 Points:413,950 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 10:30:48 PM Ignore boborobot Report Abuse I can not afford new.
paulydel Champion Author Delaware Posts:8,769 Points:846,150 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 10:29:25 PM Ignore paulydel Report Abuse There is only one way to get people to spend money and thats really lower the gas prices so that the economy will pick up hire people so that they will have money to spend to buy what they want.
Tucker1961 Champion Author Seattle Posts:2,157 Points:363,170 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 10:29:06 PM Ignore Tucker1961 Report Abuse yep
fuelsaverMN Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:2,282 Points:559,080 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 10:27:17 PM Ignore fuelsaverMN Report Abuse Forget it.Prices are still too high for my money.
96sc1 Champion Author El Paso Posts:8,517 Points:1,367,440 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 10:25:17 PM Ignore 96sc1 Report Abuse The same automobile industry that makes SUV's now wants us to save money and help save the planet by buying a new car. Forget about it.
bettersight Champion Author Oakland Posts:1,116 Points:255,885 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 10:20:27 PM Ignore bettersight Report Abuse ok
Rehorsehay All-Star Author California Posts:871 Points:45,925 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 10:16:42 PM Ignore Rehorsehay Report Abuse The math just doesn't add up. Payments, finance charges, Insurance, DMV fees and a warrantee. Oh and you still have to put gas in it or charge your batteries. Until the prices of EVERYTHING goes down the average working man can't afford it.......
jb107 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:9,534 Points:2,618,000 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 10:15:45 PM Ignore jb107 Report Abuse All that would take is money which I don't have.
RBob Champion Author Portland Posts:3,357 Points:2,344,010 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 10:15:03 PM Ignore RBob Report Abuse Point made, but dumping a good vehicle and buying a new one is not necessarily the solution.
cssco Champion Author Virginia Posts:7,306 Points:1,747,530 Joined:Feb 2006	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 10:11:15 PM Ignore cssco Report Abuse This one need a fast fact check, real bad.
Colts13 Champion Author Indiana Posts:1,555 Points:545,485 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 10:10:45 PM Ignore Colts13 Report Abuse I won't buy new.
bevmill Champion Author Georgia Posts:2,562 Points:596,545 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 10:10:25 PM Ignore bevmill Report Abuse ok
clermont40miles Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:10,548 Points:1,768,870 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 10:10:06 PM Ignore clermont40miles Report Abuse New? What is that? Who can afford a new car? Union members and Federal/State/Muni workers. Enjoy your new car.
ericbcire Champion Author Nevada Posts:4,505 Points:1,263,710 Joined:Aug 2009	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 10:09:33 PM Ignore ericbcire Report Abuse Small cars are not practical for many families.
Ply440GTX All-Star Author Texas Posts:949 Points:309,130 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 10:03:58 PM Ignore Ply440GTX Report Abuse ...most of those tiny cars are fuggly!!! Not to mention dangerous as hell if you live in a community where every fifth vehicle is a car. Too many SUVs/BIG trucks (3/4- to 1-ton) in my area and many of them drive like assholes anyway i.e. speed, tailgate, cut in front of you/cut you off, and many times they just do not see you...
dsaine Champion Author North Carolina Posts:2,977 Points:628,495 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 10:03:02 PM Ignore dsaine Report Abuse Sometimes.
jackster111 Champion Author North Carolina Posts:3,295 Points:421,560 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 10:00:41 PM Ignore jackster111 Report Abuse Driving my car until the wheels fall off, put them on again and keep on going
camel1 Champion Author Minnesota Posts:8,255 Points:2,263,590 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 10:00:06 PM Ignore camel1 Report Abuse spendy option but has environmental benefits if we buy fuel efficient autos
IUVidiot Champion Author Indiana Posts:3,570 Points:705,435 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 10:00:05 PM Ignore IUVidiot Report Abuse ok
USCCRN Sophomore Author Long Island Posts:145 Points:104,240 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 9:58:10 PM Ignore USCCRN Report Abuse With the economy the way it is and peoples financial outlooks not as well as the it should be, only a small percentage of the population can afford to buy a new, fuel efficient car.
Romey08 Champion Author Virginia Posts:6,311 Points:1,436,490 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 9:57:44 PM Ignore Romey08 Report Abuse buy only when necessary
singlemom27 Champion Author Ventura Posts:3,093 Points:636,185 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 9:55:40 PM Ignore singlemom27 Report Abuse Maybe next year...still haven't quite recovered from economic collapse yet.
WIWalt Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:1,712 Points:412,715 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 9:55:25 PM Ignore WIWalt Report Abuse There is no way I can afford a new car these days I sell my plasma now to pay for gas I cannot sell that much plazma in a month to pay for both car payment & gas. NOT
toadNY Champion Author Albany Posts:7,027 Points:1,510,225 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 9:55:12 PM Ignore toadNY Report Abuse Just think if they have cash for clunkers again how many more obama bumper stickers will be off the road.