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Who to blame for the price at the pump? Tough to say

Politifact -- $3.84 a gallon.

Three-eighty-FOUR! For one lousy gallon, one milk jug’s worth of gasoline.

The cost of a fill-up? Don’t even get us started.

Whose fault is it?

Keystone. China. Obama. PolitiFact has heard it all. Since the beginning of this year, we’ve checked more than a dozen statements and ads about gas prices. In most every case, we’ve found politicians oversimplifying their attacks, or just plain getting the facts wrong.

Did you hear the one about the single-day gas protest in 1997 that forced prices down overnight?

Well, it never happened.

In reality, the price of gas is determined by a litany of complex and shifting factors (Brent derivatives, anyone?), few of which you’ll hear mentioned in :30-second political ads.

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Submitted Apr 30, 2012 By: eromitlab

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REVLAW Champion Author San Antonio Posts:10,410 Points:2,002,270 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 12:09:21 AM Ignore REVLAW Report Abuse Seems Aviator Rob has taken a note out of the HOs playbook ... lecture folks and divide them without contributing anything meaningful. Through deflection and avoiding responsibility, try to "stay above the fray". Wonder if he learned that in "flight school" or through experience. One would think that with a "bird's eye view" the answers would be apparent and that they would be shared. About the article, this is a purely political piece in nature at without any attempt to hide. The reason, the HO is desperate as we approach the election and Politico.com is in the tank for the HO. And as much as I don't care what Aviator Rob thinks about my comments, I really don't care about his thoughts either.
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Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,776 Points:409,565 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 11:57:57 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse To everyone out there posting up on this board. I really don't care what opinions you have, as long as they are INFORMED opinions. Enough with the one sentence or even worse, one word comments. Go out there and educate yourselves and not from just one source. If you watch Fox News then you better watch MSNBC, too. Too many people here are talking past each other and not talking WITH each other. WE have to be the solution.
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mgune9 All-Star Author Dallas Posts:914 Points:200,395 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 11:53:11 PM Ignore mgune9 Report Abuse sure several inputs -- but i still think speculation in futures has the largest impact on pump prices
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DCbeachbum Champion Author South Carolina Posts:2,637 Points:900,515 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 11:34:08 PM Ignore DCbeachbum Report Abuse I am not too sure about this article. It appears to me that Politifact has an agenda of its own.
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knot2swift Champion Author Calgary Posts:4,372 Points:695,085 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 11:31:58 PM Ignore knot2swift Report Abuse It's a big circle of a dozen guys. From government to oil companies to IRS to retailers to refiners to name a few. When asked who to blame, each guy points to the right.
Ken2OD Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:9,047 Points:1,966,965 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 11:31:31 PM Ignore Ken2OD Report Abuse Too many causes are to blame, the least of which is ME.
dadown Champion Author Tulsa Posts:1,273 Points:458,365 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 11:29:19 PM Ignore dadown Report Abuse Its down to $3.31 at some stations in Tulsa now.
suzmar Champion Author Texas Posts:2,208 Points:868,310 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 11:28:49 PM Ignore suzmar Report Abuse I blame environmentalists and Democrats, probably a little redundant. Environmentalists don't like any energy production and the Obama administration has spent an obscene amount of money that has run up the government debt. This has devalued the dollar and made energy even more expensive.
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crowefamily1 All-Star Author Texas Posts:804 Points:297,100 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 11:26:30 PM Ignore crowefamily1 Report Abuse I put straight up 80% of fuel price is corporate and political GREED.
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us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:5,976 Points:1,108,585 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 11:24:32 PM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse Need to stop printing money, weak dollar higher oil prices... Need to control Wall St. on oil trades... Need to open all oil areas for drilling... Need to talk about 100 year oil supply, and using it... If the WH did all these things oil and gas prices would drop...
snappytom2 Champion Author Corpus Christi Posts:3,527 Points:273,565 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 11:21:09 PM Ignore snappytom2 Report Abuse Go find a speculator and tack his hide up to the nearest barn wall. If we catch enough of them, gas prices will fall dramatically. Tacking a few republican politicians up on the barn wall with the speculators that you catch will hasten the fall of gas prices.
abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:7,902 Points:1,570,980 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 11:21:03 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse lack of a comprehensive energy policy
tippybuddy Champion Author Ontario Posts:1,523 Points:207,740 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 11:19:06 PM Ignore tippybuddy Report Abuse I still think it's speculators
thepi All-Star Author Twin Cities Posts:745 Points:1,337,940 Joined:Nov 2001	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 11:15:56 PM Ignore thepi Report Abuse Interesting that gas is up this high when we have a president in office that has specifically said he didn't see anything wrong with gas being $ 4 or $ 5 a gallon.
Ray_10589 Champion Author New York Posts:4,921 Points:1,178,010 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 11:14:28 PM Ignore Ray_10589 Report Abuse still over $4
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UseLessGasFolks Champion Author Iowa Posts:5,426 Points:1,291,850 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 11:12:03 PM Ignore UseLessGasFolks Report Abuse All of the above PLUS EVERYONE WHO WASTES GAS!
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BKool Champion Author Michigan Posts:5,243 Points:1,896,305 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 11:09:48 PM Ignore BKool Report Abuse The blame lies at the feet of humanity...
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clarkl23 Rookie Author Boston Posts:1 Points:33,545 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 11:05:43 PM Ignore clarkl23 Report Abuse Most industry watchers say that speculators add $20-40/per barrel to the cost of oil. Make the speculators take delivery of 10% of what they buy contracts on and watch what happens to the price.