drpepperTX

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Texas
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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 10:01:58 PM
LMOA! ecopolitology huh? Wow tea is really having to scrape the bottom of the barrel!
This tripe is so full of misinformation and flat out lies its laughable! Too many to cover, but then again that is the deceptive trademark of the Eco-nazi regime.
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DOS

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Illinois
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 12:18:04 AM
Funny the article title says that ExxonMobil pushed for the Loopholes in Disclosure Rules, but in the text of the article it says:
"The spokesman said ExxonMobil supports 'full disclosure of the ingredients and additives in hydraulic fracturing fluids,' ... Last year, the company began voluntarily uploading chemical disclosures to FracFocus, a clearinghouse website run by the Groundwater Protection Council and the Interstate Oil and Gas Compact Commission."
So following the strategy used by the Robert the Bruce Sr. character in Bravehart, ExxonMoblil seems to be taking positions on both sides of the Fracking chemical disclosure issue. Or is Exxon suffering from a multiple personality disorder?
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teafortwo

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Washington
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 3:11:20 PM
FROM THE ARTICLE:
One apparent proponent of the trade secrets caveat? The American Legislative Exchange Council, better known as ALEC, a nonprofit group that brings together politicians and corporations to draft and promote conservative, business-friendly legislation. ALEC has been in the spotlight recently because of its support of controversial laws like Florida's "Stand Your Ground" provision.
This weekend, as part of a story on ALEC's political activity, The New York Times noted that the group recently adopted "model legislation" on fracking chemical disclosure, based on a bill passed in Texas last year. According to The Times, the model bill was "sponsored within ALEC" by ExxonMobil, which runs a major oil and gas operation through its subsidiary, XTO Energy. The advocacy group Common Cause, which provided the documents on ALEC's lobbying efforts to The Times, describes model legislation, in many cases identifying by name the company that proposed it to ALEC's task forces.
ALEC has recently removed its list of model bills from its main website, and did not respond to requests for comment. A spokesman for XTO Energy confirmed that the company is a member of ALEC, but he did not provide details on the company's involvement with the disclosure bill.
The spokesman said ExxonMobil supports "full disclosure of the ingredients and additives in hydraulic fracturing fluids," but added that when vendors request it, ExxonMobil has "respected the trade secret status of their products." Last year, the company began voluntarily uploading chemical disclosures to FracFocus, a clearinghouse website run by the Groundwater Protection Council and the Interstate Oil and Gas Compact Commission.
In a recent blog post, ALEC claimed that legislators in Pennsylvania, Illinois, Indiana, New York and Ohio have introduced versions of its model bill, but many of those states vary in the level of disclosure required and how they handle the trade secrets provision. Laws in 11 states require at least partial disclosure, and the Bureau of Land Management recently drafted disclosure guidelines for drilling on federal land.
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YumaFellow

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Arizona
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 12:30:02 PM
ALEC is Benedict Arnold revisited. It designs boiler-plate legislation for the right-wing and then gets politicians to introduce the bills in multiple states. Always looking for a free ride for corporations and big-government when it comes to issues of sexuality and personal ethics.
So this is no surprise.
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crep1291

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Ottawa
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 10:51:18 AM
Indeed, revealing their exact chemical composition would make it easier to pinpoint a leaky well.
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jorobins538

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 9:15:59 AM
you can count on big corporations to do everything they can to maximize their paychecks and screww the rest of us
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Joeski1

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 8:37:05 AM
The real secret is how these chemicals once added to good water, can be removed and that once good water returned to the water bio- cycle instead of pressure dumped under ground to cause tremblors in the central backward states where they allow this 'sweeping under the rug'
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GingoutMD

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 8:23:51 AM
How about we send a fracking team to drill in the back yard of the ALEC staff and start pumping in the "trade secret" chemicals. Do you think they would complain then???
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grandpadon28110

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Charlotte
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 7:54:01 AM
Looking to regulate!
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gazprize

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 7:49:46 AM
hmmmmm
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ArboretumCop

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Richmond
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 7:48:56 AM
ALEC is a pure Republican interest group that the new state govenors subscribed to 2 years ago. The result is chaos in states like WI, Va, and AZ as well as others.
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dave27johnson

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 7:38:20 AM
ALEC abuses its tax-exempt status to be a corporate lobbyist. This is a misuse of trade secrets to avoid regulation and legal challenges.
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Ltdc

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Long Island
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 7:33:19 AM
Let's hope cancer rates don't spike years from now from this insidious cocktail.
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johntxx

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Texas
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 7:27:37 AM
Couldn't get to the full aricle on this eco site--it was grayed out.
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dorisntx

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Fort Worth
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 7:22:22 AM
ok
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doeslayersr

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 7:20:53 AM
Consider the source. The bottom line is the eco-left opposes any and all fracking and will not be satisfied with any disclosure, regardless of the materials utilized.
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bullet226

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 7:12:45 AM
Oh boy
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OHMS

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 7:06:49 AM
The Texas law, which ALEC cites in the post as its template, codifies the trade secrets exemption, and who can challenge it.
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cdrrod

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Wisconsin
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 7:02:28 AM
If you're gonna pump, it's only fair to let others know what the side effects are!
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EricBrazil

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Miami
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 6:56:14 AM
Not good!
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dsaine

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 6:45:39 AM
More crap...
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farmboyTN

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Tennessee
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 6:42:12 AM
OK
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