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Boeing tests fuel-cell technology on American Airline 737

king5.com -- SEATTLE -- A fuel cell is pretty simple in concept: feed in two gases, oxygen and hydrogen, and a catalyst that helps combine those two common elements into water. When the elements combine, electricity is created, along with heat.

Fuel cells have been used to help power space craft, and they are in growing in use in countries like Japan to power buses and, soon, cars.

But could fuel cells power airplanes? Could they cut the use of expensive jet fuel and, indirectly, make flying a little greener?

The electricity that runs everything from the electronic displays in the cockpit to the reading light above a passenger's seat are powered by jet fuel. A commercial airliner's engines drive generators to power the plane's electronics.

But decades down the road, fuel-cell technology co

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Van_Halen Champion Author Atlanta Posts:2,844 Points:639,505 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 10:08:43 PM Ignore Van_Halen Report Abuse . Can you say "Hindenburg" boys and girls, sure you can, BOOM! Hydrogen is the worst thing you can put on an aircraft. Aircraft self generate static buildup charges and are VERY prone to lightening strikes! Plain STUPID! The electronics don't really use ANY fuel, the turbine has to spin anyway while making thrust so the generator gets an almost free ride. In no way justifying having Hydrogen on a passenger aircraft!
wild3bill Champion Author New York Posts:2,546 Points:1,686,465 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 9:39:56 AM Ignore wild3bill Report Abuse And you can DRINK the water or put it in the windshield washer!
jrs4125 Champion Author Indiana Posts:2,748 Points:589,795 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 7:27:38 AM Ignore jrs4125 Report Abuse Not likely.
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:32,949 Points:2,343,560 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 4:47:27 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse Boeing tests fuel-cell technology on American Airline 737! Test, Test, Test but without much cheaper hydrogen then what can be produced now, it will be one very expensive ride. A fuel cell that can use many different fuels economically is much better. Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012!
SteelPenny Champion Author Dallas Posts:30,929 Points:2,604,790 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 12:07:54 AM Ignore SteelPenny Report Abuse Let's try big rubber bands first.
N5EXY Champion Author Austin Posts:5,482 Points:1,507,830 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 12:07:19 AM Ignore N5EXY Report Abuse YeahBut - - the problem is getting enough cost effective hydrogen as fuel cell power becomes more common.
FlyNFool Champion Author South Carolina Posts:8,229 Points:1,683,025 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Oct 1, 2012 12:05:59 AM Ignore FlyNFool Report Abuse old news
MidNJ Champion Author New Jersey Posts:7,542 Points:1,171,330 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 7:18:32 PM Ignore MidNJ Report Abuse Don't understand that much about how fuel cells work, but as I understand the by product of burning hydrogen and oxygen is water. If this also saves expensive jet fuel it sounds like a winning combination to me!
Sneakers55 Champion Author Houston Posts:51,270 Points:2,141,225 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 7:17:39 PM Ignore Sneakers55 Report Abuse On Sep 30, 2012 3:24:26 PM, dlemma wrote: >no taxpayer money had better be in this... Boeing is profitable, they do their own research and development with their own money.
dlemma Champion Author Wyoming Posts:4,091 Points:1,552,970 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 4:24:26 PM Ignore dlemma Report Abuse no taxpayer money had better be in this...
Palantas All-Star Author Indianapolis Posts:803 Points:412,345 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 2:48:51 PM Ignore Palantas Report Abuse They'll put a fuel cell in anything these days.
Cashless Champion Author Akron Posts:3,505 Points:732,130 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 2:32:49 PM Ignore Cashless Report Abuse Good news.
rknaak1 Sophomore Author Wisconsin Posts:130 Points:46,960 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 1:50:41 PM Ignore rknaak1 Report Abuse Sounds good.
mitt4prez Champion Author Tacoma Posts:1,733 Points:1,243,295 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 1:46:57 PM Ignore mitt4prez Report Abuse Fuel cells are the best "Green" tech around, but don't promise enough political graft for the cronies. So they languish.
schatzila Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:4,934 Points:1,013,695 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 1:40:50 PM Ignore schatzila Report Abuse Love this idea.
briinnc Champion Author North Carolina Posts:2,705 Points:834,820 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 1:31:25 PM Ignore briinnc Report Abuse Great place to test it, just hope I don't get to fly on it!!
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leeac Champion Author Ohio Posts:1,586 Points:431,955 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 1:05:52 PM Ignore leeac Report Abuse Even air liners ar getting in on fuel economy.
ss70 Champion Author Detroit Posts:9,643 Points:1,867,380 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 11:46:03 AM Ignore ss70 Report Abuse wow ... Hydrogen planes ....
BburgCW Champion Author Virginia Posts:2,686 Points:1,177,380 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 11:42:05 AM Ignore BburgCW Report Abuse Interesting article. I would worry about carrying hydrogen on board, too. Companies have been working for a while now on techniques for storing hydrogen safely. I guess they haven't had much success.
bobcatfan Champion Author Kentucky Posts:1,591 Points:616,550 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 11:11:23 AM Ignore bobcatfan Report Abuse This technology has been around for decades. Why so slow getting to market?
F81M Champion Author Indiana Posts:1,483 Points:784,210 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 11:06:57 AM Ignore F81M Report Abuse I believe I have heard of the existence of a hydrogen bomb! A little scary.
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studebaker1940 Champion Author Tampa Posts:2,495 Points:683,630 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 10:51:36 AM Ignore studebaker1940 Report Abuse We'll be reading about another Hindenburg disaster. Hydrogen is flammable.
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DickAAA Champion Author St. Louis Posts:2,263 Points:1,360,875 Joined:Jan 2005	Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 10:46:59 AM Ignore DickAAA Report Abuse Fuel cells were used on the Gemini program and the astronauts drank the resulting water and the electronics on board were powered by the electricity produced. Fuel cells are a very good product to save fuel on aircraft.
fordfan1 Champion Author Indiana Posts:9,082 Points:1,889,065 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Sep 30, 2012 10:45:51 AM Ignore fordfan1 Report Abuse I hope that it works out and is safe to use!!!!
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