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CNG Bi-Fuel F-350 vs. VW TDI vs. BMW 5-Series: Discover Which Wins The Fuel-Economy Title

NGT News -- Venchurs Vehicle Systems says one of its converted compressed natural gas (CNG) bi-fuel Ford F-350 pickup trucks was recently pitted against a Volkswagen Passat TDI and a BMW 5-Series on the History Channel's "Top Gear" program to determine which vehicle offered the best fuel economy.

The episode, which will re-air on Thurs., Sept. 13, at 11:00 p.m. Eastern, was dubbed "One Tank." The show's hosts were required to drive from Portland, Ore., to San Francisco without stopping for fuel.

Venchurs, which is keeping the results of the match-up close to its chest, commented only that the CNG bi-fuel truck "performed extremely well in the test, highlighting its long-range capabilities and the seamless transition from CNG to gasoline operation."

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orphancarguyPE Champion Author PEI Posts:3,838 Points:733,040 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Sep 7, 2012 10:21:32 PM Ignore orphancarguyPE Report Abuse Drive two diesel wagons and one gasser wagon at present. The old diesel gets 50 mpg (US) on average with a manual transmission, the bigger, heavier, 50% more powerful diesel gets 40 US mpg on average, with an automatic. The Subaru Forester gets 30 mpg with a manual. My guess is the VW TDI aces it in mpg, but 'cost per mile' is the real test for these three oddfellows
BigTruc All-Star Author Memphis Posts:952 Points:779,465 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Sep 7, 2012 3:44:17 PM Ignore BigTruc Report Abuse I wanna watch that.
Bussman Champion Author Dallas Posts:5,508 Points:1,358,010 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Sep 7, 2012 12:40:04 PM Ignore Bussman Report Abuse I love my VW Jetta TDI!
nevaeh04 Rookie Author Texas Posts:82 Points:169,905 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Sep 7, 2012 11:48:13 AM Ignore nevaeh04 Report Abuse WOW
shiftdnb Rookie Author Albany Posts:14 Points:6,815 Joined:Sep 2010	Message Posted: Sep 7, 2012 11:36:58 AM Ignore shiftdnb Report Abuse Interesting to read this article as I just got a TDI Touareg and was interested in seeing the gas mileage of the CNG truck. A little unfair they pit a F350 against a Passat and a BMW 5 series. I'm loving the TDI, as I've been getting 28 mpg in a pretty big SUV with a lot of power.
Skunk63 Champion Author Phoenix Posts:2,551 Points:556,525 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Sep 7, 2012 11:10:00 AM Ignore Skunk63 Report Abuse I'm watching that episode.
ss70 Champion Author Detroit Posts:9,645 Points:1,868,150 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Sep 7, 2012 10:57:12 AM Ignore ss70 Report Abuse CNG bifuel vehicles should be way going forward
crep1291 Champion Author Ottawa Posts:2,576 Points:480,635 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Sep 7, 2012 10:50:12 AM Ignore crep1291 Report Abuse Interesting, but I didn't feel like having to watch a 45min. video recording. Anyone else did? What's the conclusion?
eschroth442 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:1,069 Points:330,795 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Sep 7, 2012 10:31:36 AM Ignore eschroth442 Report Abuse Gotta love "Top Gear"
puinsai808 Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,534 Points:725,355 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Sep 7, 2012 9:53:54 AM Ignore puinsai808 Report Abuse cool
zwsn01 All-Star Author Alabama Posts:691 Points:438,400 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Sep 7, 2012 8:15:38 AM Ignore zwsn01 Report Abuse The bi-fuel sounds like a good idea until we can get CNG stations everywhere.
Gas_Eyes Champion Author Dallas Posts:2,667 Points:642,910 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Sep 7, 2012 8:10:01 AM Ignore Gas_Eyes Report Abuse With CNG almost half the price to gasoline, it should beat any gasoline or diesel car.
OldMan322 Champion Author Illinois Posts:5,145 Points:1,592,790 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Sep 7, 2012 8:01:36 AM Ignore OldMan322 Report Abuse Was it a fair test
335d1 Champion Author Virginia Posts:2,371 Points:757,095 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Sep 7, 2012 7:25:42 AM Ignore 335d1 Report Abuse It was a good show. Go turbodiesels!
albyneau Sophomore Author California Posts:249 Points:116,040 Joined:Jul 2012	Message Posted: Sep 7, 2012 3:56:08 AM Ignore albyneau Report Abuse Yeah~ TDI RULES~! And it was even broken....
lgwhitlock Champion Author Chico Posts:7,375 Points:1,683,545 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Sep 7, 2012 3:44:27 AM Ignore lgwhitlock Report Abuse The turbo diesel wins...
mazdaboy Champion Author Portland Posts:7,878 Points:2,096,305 Joined:Aug 2003	Message Posted: Sep 7, 2012 3:18:59 AM Ignore mazdaboy Report Abuse The Passat wins, the F-350 didn't even get 15 mpg.
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speedys Champion Author Utah Posts:7,007 Points:2,556,935 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Sep 7, 2012 3:13:43 AM Ignore speedys Report Abuse I seen it already and the fuel capacities were not very equal for this kind of test.
vulcan96 Champion Author Ohio Posts:26,890 Points:3,101,725 Joined:Aug 2004	Message Posted: Sep 7, 2012 3:13:14 AM Ignore vulcan96 Report Abuse ok - i guess we wait.....
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Buddy2264 Champion Author Tampa Posts:11,646 Points:2,358,935 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Sep 7, 2012 2:59:50 AM Ignore Buddy2264 Report Abuse Let's see how the test goes.
oldhillbillyAZ Champion Author Tucson Posts:4,331 Points:666,110 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Sep 7, 2012 2:56:06 AM Ignore oldhillbillyAZ Report Abuse Kinda Goofy Comparison....How much did each vehicle cost...How much did the fuel cost in each one for the trip. I believe it created more questions than it answered. Like one of the posters said... maybe it was supposed to just be humor. Ha Ha
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Retowered Champion Author Colorado Posts:8,567 Points:2,683,465 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Sep 7, 2012 2:38:26 AM Ignore Retowered Report Abuse Interesting, I think that i would pick Ford. But I can't afford any of them my self.
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