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Detroit 54.5 MPG Mandate Gets Help From U.S. Army’s Tanks

Bloomberg -- The temperature hovers around 120 degrees at the Arsenal of Democracy. Michael Reid keeps up the heat in the laboratory as he tests a Bradley fighting vehicle commonly used under extreme conditions.

Reid, director of vehicle-testing labs at the Tank Automotive Research Development and Engineering Center in Warren, Michigan, leads a staff that also is testing a system to turn exhaust heat into electricity to power a tank’s computer. In time, consumers might see similar fuel-saving technology -- currently consumers’ No. 1 concern -- in a Chevy Malibu or Jeep Grand Cherokee.

The auto industry has a long tradition of adapting military technology to improve passenger cars for civilians, said John Wolkonowicz, an independent auto analyst in Boston who specializes in automotive history.

“Just

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sparky808 Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,139 Points:624,685 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: May 15, 2012 1:36:47 PM Ignore sparky808 Report Abuse Thank you for posting.
kgbellman Champion Author Ann Arbor Posts:2,854 Points:759,540 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: May 15, 2012 1:20:45 AM Ignore kgbellman Report Abuse Where there's a will, there's a way
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OGW Champion Author London Posts:5,446 Points:1,558,085 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: May 14, 2012 11:59:00 PM Ignore OGW Report Abuse Maybe they should be working on a 54.5 mpg tank and save the taxpayers some money.
Dodge_Me Champion Author Atlanta Posts:2,214 Points:576,480 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: May 14, 2012 11:56:04 PM Ignore Dodge_Me Report Abuse Sounds like some cool high tech
gass12 Champion Author Omaha Posts:8,528 Points:2,331,395 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: May 14, 2012 11:53:28 PM Ignore gass12 Report Abuse Call on the Military again.
DEG Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:17,745 Points:3,519,480 Joined:Jul 2003	Message Posted: May 14, 2012 11:49:40 PM Ignore DEG Report Abuse Sounds interesting. My next vehicle is likely to be a diesel.
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abcdMA Champion Author Worcester Posts:8,052 Points:1,600,730 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: May 14, 2012 11:45:26 PM Ignore abcdMA Report Abuse technology at its best
jrsva Champion Author Virginia Posts:9,999 Points:1,639,950 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: May 14, 2012 11:43:19 PM Ignore jrsva Report Abuse I owned a VW Squareback about 40 years ago. Since it had an air-cooled engine there was no water to circulate for the heater. It had a heat exchanger that tapped the exhaust heat, which worked fine if it was not to cold out. I believe some earlier American cars used a similar system.
DTroytNC Veteran Author Charlotte Posts:366 Points:62,510 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: May 14, 2012 11:40:02 PM Ignore DTroytNC Report Abuse Wait until they adopt the armament as well.
mstearno Champion Author Dayton Posts:8,174 Points:1,755,920 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: May 14, 2012 11:32:52 PM Ignore mstearno Report Abuse sure it does and Santa helped
stadlgi Champion Author Akron Posts:2,210 Points:1,321,610 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: May 14, 2012 11:31:32 PM Ignore stadlgi Report Abuse Popular Mechanics years ago had plans and a story about using exhaust gases to cook a meal while on a long journy. The article featured a Volkswagen Beetle or Microbus, I don't remember which, but it centered about a VW. The exhaust gases circulated around the object being cooked in an oven designed and built to heat the food then exit as it rolled on down the road. Early greenthink.
knot2swift Champion Author Calgary Posts:4,506 Points:717,735 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: May 14, 2012 11:31:19 PM Ignore knot2swift Report Abuse Well maybe we can get some help from the military. They're always looking for ways to kill and destroy more cheaply.
bigoilscamsus Champion Author Lansing Posts:1,058 Points:48,265 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: May 14, 2012 11:30:42 PM Ignore bigoilscamsus Report Abuse g747-- what dependency on foreign oil? When you weren't looking ,we have become a net exporter of gasoline and other petroleum products!! Each weekly report says so !! Try to keep up with what is happening!!!
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FlyNFool Champion Author South Carolina Posts:8,379 Points:1,712,675 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: May 14, 2012 11:24:14 PM Ignore FlyNFool Report Abuse A tank get about a mile to a gallon if that.
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g747 Champion Author Mobile Posts:4,682 Points:961,370 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: May 14, 2012 11:09:32 PM Ignore g747 Report Abuse The president needs to lift all drilling bans,approve the canadian keystone,move rigoriously forward to reduce our nation's foreign oil dependancy !!!!!!!.
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jimslo Champion Author Regina Posts:1,043 Points:623,240 Joined:Feb 2003	Message Posted: May 14, 2012 11:05:04 PM Ignore jimslo Report Abuse This would be great if it were to happen.
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tpguess Champion Author San Diego Posts:1,696 Points:394,410 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: May 14, 2012 10:55:53 PM Ignore tpguess Report Abuse NASA gave us Tang.... Obama's administration give us BS... not much of a Malt... but serious improvements have come from Military testing... just let the free market decide what has value....
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30mpg80 Champion Author Lexington Posts:10,265 Points:1,514,580 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: May 14, 2012 10:44:25 PM Ignore 30mpg80 Report Abuse Manufacturers could have produced higher gas mileage vehicles years ago
miiike572 All-Star Author Phoenix Posts:798 Points:545,440 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: May 14, 2012 10:40:05 PM Ignore miiike572 Report Abuse I thought the Liberals hated everything about the military.
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paulydel Champion Author Delaware Posts:8,893 Points:858,100 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: May 14, 2012 10:34:50 PM Ignore paulydel Report Abuse This is all BS. We could get high gas milage now if we wanted to but the govt. is the holdback because it would mean less road tax coming in.
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suzmar Champion Author Texas Posts:2,223 Points:896,935 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: May 14, 2012 10:29:02 PM Ignore suzmar Report Abuse I don't think there should be mandates, should because the government wants somethings shouldn't mean it can mandate it. The marketplace should decide.
jb107 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:9,690 Points:2,649,600 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: May 14, 2012 10:27:10 PM Ignore jb107 Report Abuse Interesting.
FuelOilOH Champion Author Cleveland Posts:2,842 Points:1,184,595 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: May 14, 2012 10:22:57 PM Ignore FuelOilOH Report Abuse Do you mean the General is serious about fuel economy?
milespergallon Champion Author Illinois Posts:9,885 Points:1,936,060 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: May 14, 2012 10:20:00 PM Ignore milespergallon Report Abuse I take exception to the statement where they claim that they are spending billions to develop better mpg. They already have many, they just aren't manufacturing them. Time to get away from gas and diesel!
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ericbcire Champion Author Nevada Posts:4,660 Points:1,295,035 Joined:Aug 2009	Message Posted: May 14, 2012 10:10:53 PM Ignore ericbcire Report Abuse We don't need mandates.
Goody2317 All-Star Author Wilmington Posts:680 Points:637,705 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: May 14, 2012 10:10:12 PM Ignore Goody2317 Report Abuse Good for them. I hope it will work.