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Industry works to avoid listing of Lesser Prairie Chicken

The Denver Channel -- LUBBOCK, Texas - Oil, gas and wind energy producers are working to persuade federal wildlife officials not to enact protections for the lesser prairie chicken, a move that could force them to halt or significantly alter their operations to protect the species' dwindling grassland habitat.

The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service will hold its final public hearings this week on its proposal to list the prairie grouse as threatened under the Endangered Species Act.

The chickens, which have feathered feet and a stout build, need large tracts of relatively intact native grasslands and prairies to thrive. But such habitats are being wiped out as wind turbines, oil derricks, ranches and farms are added.

Wind energy companies that expect to develop farms across the chickens' habitat began work on ha

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LetemEatCake Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:5,615 Points:1,207,555 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Feb 13, 2013 11:38:39 PM Ignore LetemEatCake Report Abuse Guy...we have!
HawaiianGuy Champion Author Idaho Posts:9,543 Points:3,082,625 Joined:May 2003	Message Posted: Feb 13, 2013 11:26:38 AM Ignore HawaiianGuy Report Abuse Don't worry. The so-called "environmentalists" will come up with some reason as to why Oil and Gas production should not proceed in these "sensitive" areas.
LetemEatCake Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:5,615 Points:1,207,555 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 11:30:33 PM Ignore LetemEatCake Report Abuse Well said, I love it...Nsdp!
remay Champion Author Houston Posts:6,980 Points:2,120,455 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 6:53:52 AM Ignore remay Report Abuse Bummer.
Amplion Champion Author Oregon Posts:6,783 Points:1,867,985 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 3:37:43 AM Ignore Amplion Report Abuse BAN WIND FARMS !!!!
JMW1942 All-Star Author Michigan Posts:586 Points:409,895 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 12:26:23 AM Ignore JMW1942 Report Abuse Good eating.
nsdp Champion Author San Antonio Posts:1,117 Points:47,340 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 11:48:17 PM Ignore nsdp Report Abuse If you look at the Google or Landsat images of the Texas and Oklahoma panhandles and Eastern NM you will find there is no problem if the wind farms are put on land already under cultivation. Prairie Chickens won't go near farm land so there is no real clash. Only reason there is a "problem" is who get s the royalty payment as a land owner. The big ranchers or the farmers. Just like the Lincoln County land wars with Billy the Kid and Pat Garret. Can't believe how dumb (or biased)the people who write and post these stories on line are. [Edited by: nsdp at 2/11/2013 11:50:40 PM EST]
ExplorerWA Champion Author Washington Posts:4,093 Points:800,075 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 11:41:10 PM Ignore ExplorerWA Report Abuse Oh Man, another mess.
weenerdog Champion Author Detroit Posts:9,476 Points:1,887,815 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 8:01:17 PM Ignore weenerdog Report Abuse move them
Double_Golden Champion Author San Francisco Posts:2,580 Points:608,535 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 7:51:53 PM Ignore Double_Golden Report Abuse who cares about Lesser Prairie Chicken when we are pay big bucks at the pump...
DanMtz Champion Author Oakland Posts:3,370 Points:1,246,350 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 7:47:47 PM Ignore DanMtz Report Abuse The Lesser Prairie Chicken has got to have its price. Start negotiations.
hank1326 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:8,924 Points:1,736,510 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 7:31:31 PM Ignore hank1326 Report Abuse At some point we need to think globally but act locally. We need to save ourselves first.
dcoxdcox44 All-Star Author New Hampshire Posts:653 Points:204,660 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 6:35:13 PM Ignore dcoxdcox44 Report Abuse From below- "Forget that bird;DRILL & PRODUCE JOBS PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!." "Stop killing jobs." The Republican motto - as long as we're making money, who cares what happens to the environment? If we're making money, it must be good!
ericbcire Champion Author Nevada Posts:4,540 Points:1,270,635 Joined:Aug 2009	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 6:28:56 PM Ignore ericbcire Report Abuse Stop killing jobs.
The_DR Champion Author New Jersey Posts:2,800 Points:587,990 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 6:25:29 PM Ignore The_DR Report Abuse What?
hcivic Champion Author Virginia Posts:3,869 Points:2,268,640 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 6:24:53 PM Ignore hcivic Report Abuse there's always something to block, stop or delay a project
vrossi46 Champion Author San Jose Posts:2,682 Points:806,870 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 6:22:36 PM Ignore vrossi46 Report Abuse what about the greater prairie chicken?
g747 Champion Author Mobile Posts:4,556 Points:936,595 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 6:22:06 PM Ignore g747 Report Abuse Forget that bird;DRILL & PRODUCE JOBS PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!.
Mr.Dirt Champion Author Albany Posts:8,381 Points:2,512,325 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 6:20:32 PM Ignore Mr.Dirt Report Abuse so because of some birds we might have to go with no lights and heat same as do not drill for oil we have to save the polar bears and walk right drill the bears and and shot the birds they will move away
CCLighthouse Champion Author Hartford Posts:1,023 Points:216,930 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 6:19:37 PM Ignore CCLighthouse Report Abuse Let's see, Chicken, Humans, Chickens, Humans, Chickens, Humans....? Well Chicken is a very tasty bird and I can imagine Humans, not so much! I think we should put the humans on the endangered species list. : )
BossPal All-Star Author Illinois Posts:552 Points:242,285 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 6:19:22 PM Ignore BossPal Report Abuse All in favor of saving the little chickens.
Paw5X Champion Author Gary Posts:9,913 Points:2,270,230 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 6:19:07 PM Ignore Paw5X Report Abuse Oh, what would we ever do without them???
racerdj Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:9,830 Points:2,059,500 Joined:Jun 2003	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 6:18:37 PM Ignore racerdj Report Abuse Insanity!
FogCitySpotter Champion Author San Francisco Posts:2,503 Points:524,050 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 6:13:35 PM Ignore FogCitySpotter Report Abuse Omg
TheSnowstorm Champion Author Montreal Posts:8,634 Points:1,916,705 Joined:June 2005	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 6:12:46 PM Ignore TheSnowstorm Report Abuse bearzz: Agreed.
btex49 Champion Author Austin Posts:2,730 Points:533,780 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 6:09:07 PM Ignore btex49 Report Abuse It apppears the prairie chicken needs to move over and adapt to new neighbors.
OU8121959 Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:2,724 Points:534,910 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 6:08:38 PM Ignore OU8121959 Report Abuse alrighty
bearzz Champion Author California Posts:1,447 Points:422,595 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 6:08:30 PM Ignore bearzz Report Abuse I don't know about this one . . . but so many "threatened species" protections have no common sense factors.
munch252 Veteran Author Cleveland Posts:282 Points:138,985 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 6:05:59 PM Ignore munch252 Report Abuse hmmm
fcdriver Champion Author Tennessee Posts:7,263 Points:1,476,755 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 6:02:47 PM Ignore fcdriver Report Abuse good luck
btsom Sophomore Author Oklahoma City Posts:222 Points:14,100 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 5:58:39 PM Ignore btsom Report Abuse mycar2 says: there are other places they can build on I am sorry to be blunt, but do you function as an independent adult? You drill for oil where the oil is, you build wind turbines where the wind is steady and common. Why don't YOU finance some turbines down in a valley where the wind is weak and rare or drill for oil where research says it is not located. There may be some vacancies at the EPA or DOE, you'd fit right in.
borodin Veteran Author Montreal Posts:407 Points:32,635 Joined:Jan 2013	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 5:55:22 PM Ignore borodin Report Abuse ok
MaxGasUp All-Star Author Maryland Posts:795 Points:232,515 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 5:55:18 PM Ignore MaxGasUp Report Abuse Another example of tree huggers impeding progress and driving prices up!
DirtDauber Champion Author San Antonio Posts:6,796 Points:1,630,385 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 5:51:40 PM Ignore DirtDauber Report Abuse It really depends on who is paying the taxes on the land. If you are paying them, then you should choose how the land is used.
mikaye Champion Author Cleveland Posts:3,849 Points:868,335 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 5:51:37 PM Ignore mikaye Report Abuse don'tcare about chickens
mycar2 Champion Author Akron Posts:2,115 Points:2,360,590 Joined:Apr 2004	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 5:49:30 PM Ignore mycar2 Report Abuse there are other places they can build on
unloquacious Champion Author Indiana Posts:2,702 Points:1,042,270 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 5:47:11 PM Ignore unloquacious Report Abuse Oh please! Need to get Colonel Sanders involved, with his eleven herbs and spices, and invite the Fish & Wildlife folks over for some fried (Prairie) Chicken!
btsom Sophomore Author Oklahoma City Posts:222 Points:14,100 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 5:45:46 PM Ignore btsom Report Abuse camel1 says: we need to protect the species but there have to be reasonable limits too. Unfortunately, no thought is given to WHO decides what "reasonable" is. There are as many opinions as those asked. Thus, what SOUNDS like the most reasonable solution is, in reality, unworkable. You can bet that everyone in the EPA and the DOE all believe they are "reasonable". Few of us would agree. Defund them all and let's get to work. By the way, the chickens can NOT co-exist with the wind turbines. Too many chickens will be killed when the flying birds killed by the blades fall on them.
cutter1330 Champion Author Oklahoma Posts:8,045 Points:1,696,815 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 5:43:57 PM Ignore cutter1330 Report Abuse If we save the 'Lesser' will it become the 'Greater"?
comprof Champion Author Houston Posts:6,875 Points:1,359,675 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 5:41:58 PM Ignore comprof Report Abuse I am sick and tired of these environmental nuts trying to save species that are no longer suited to an ever changing environment. Environmental change and extinction of some species is a natural process that has been going on with living organisms for at least 3.3 billion years. Stupid idiots!
Voltus Champion Author Miami Posts:8,466 Points:1,558,325 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 5:41:51 PM Ignore Voltus Report Abuse at the end when they are done extracting oil, gas, minerals etc... the landscape will look like the movie "Mad Max"
Kato51 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:7,280 Points:2,167,690 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 5:41:18 PM Ignore Kato51 Report Abuse What's this have to do with the price of gas?
NatureBoyKY Champion Author Kentucky Posts:3,374 Points:1,297,730 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 5:40:32 PM Ignore NatureBoyKY Report Abuse Protecting these chickens must be considered for all development.
fatboy97 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:2,499 Points:1,710,500 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 5:38:17 PM Ignore fatboy97 Report Abuse Too much reading to get to the point!!!
slowtrain Champion Author Georgia Posts:3,682 Points:951,825 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 5:36:22 PM Ignore slowtrain Report Abuse Surely they can build wind farms around a chicken.
wulf2000 Champion Author Miami Posts:3,037 Points:1,391,780 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 5:34:53 PM Ignore wulf2000 Report Abuse Wind farms versus the chicken, I mean the prairie chicken. Want to save the prairie chicken? Start raising them for food.
RocketGeek Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:10,607 Points:2,111,310 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 5:32:49 PM Ignore RocketGeek Report Abuse Bring them to the U.P. of Michigan.
Caribou2011 Champion Author Ohio Posts:3,781 Points:771,760 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 5:30:10 PM Ignore Caribou2011 Report Abuse i hear it tastes like chicken!!
BBHybrid Champion Author Pittsburgh Posts:6,474 Points:1,296,000 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 5:21:56 PM Ignore BBHybrid Report Abuse lower prices
boldrph Champion Author Topeka Posts:18,392 Points:3,454,565 Joined:Oct 2002	Message Posted: Feb 11, 2013 5:21:49 PM Ignore boldrph Report Abuse habitat? we don't no stinkin' habitat