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Japan's atomic disaster due to "collusion" : panel report

Reuters -- Japan's Fukushima nuclear crisis was a preventable disaster resulting from "collusion" among the government, regulators and the plant operator, an expert panel said on Thursday, wrapping up an inquiry into the worst nuclear accident in 25 years.

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Submitted Jul 05, 2012 By: mad_low

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Gas_Eyes Champion Author Dallas Posts:2,692 Points:647,785 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 9:42:52 AM Ignore Gas_Eyes Report Abuse Did they conclude this as an explanation so that they can restart some of the Nuclear plants? The Japanese government probably see that shutting down all (more than 50) plants was going to be difficult for their economy. Replacing all that power generation is very expensive. With the summer when they need more power, they are in deep trouble.
daequitz Champion Author New Jersey Posts:6,332 Points:1,386,530 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 5:56:10 AM Ignore daequitz Report Abuse Understated.
VomVom Champion Author Calgary Posts:3,857 Points:1,627,080 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Jul 6, 2012 1:11:15 AM Ignore VomVom Report Abuse Views like those of coughlin were over simplications of the facts. They showed a gross misunderstanding of what happened. The reactors and many major ancillary equipment were all designed to withstand earthquakes and they did. Unfortunately, hindsight reviewed a very simple problem. It was with the "insignificant" cooling pumps. There were not critical services with 2 @ 100% units. Unfortunately, both were knocked out by the earthquake. Without cooling, the reactors ran out of control. Obviously, cost reduction was a factor in the design of the facilities where collusion may well have occurred. [Edited by: VomVom at 7/6/2012 1:12:52 AM EST]
NHLiveFree Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:11,113 Points:1,625,315 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 11:56:21 PM Ignore NHLiveFree Report Abuse And how many nuclear power plants are on fault lines in the USA listerone? Look it up and you may be amazed. Yes Letem.... Don't get caught! Our own NRC is in a rather cozy place with the USA Nuclear Industry. Apply the 'lessons learned' here as well.
LetemEatCake Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:5,615 Points:1,207,555 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 11:22:30 PM Ignore LetemEatCake Report Abuse I wonder if the Japanese have learned anything from this disaster?
listerone Champion Author Boston Posts:3,390 Points:880,715 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 10:12:36 PM Ignore listerone Report Abuse The lesson to be learned...be careful when building nuke plants in earthquake zones.
CVA19 Champion Author Salem Posts:2,393 Points:611,325 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 9:34:51 PM Ignore CVA19 Report Abuse Did I miss something? We've been told by the eco-socialists and progressives that heavy regulation is the answer to almost everything. Don't tell me that regulators are corruptible or incompetent.
coughlin Champion Author San Jose Posts:5,195 Points:1,119,815 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 8:48:48 PM Ignore coughlin Report Abuse I think that 'collusion' is baloney. They were subjected to a HUGE tsunami and stuff happened. The crime was allowing people to stay within 50 miles of that power plant.
bandannaman Champion Author New Jersey Posts:1,849 Points:365,610 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 8:07:39 PM Ignore bandannaman Report Abuse I think they are telling themselves what they want to hear.
YaBassa Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,445 Points:520,025 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 7:50:34 PM Ignore YaBassa Report Abuse Collusion, yes. Built on the Pacific Rim and close to the ocean, I can't think of a more unsafe building site.
Jeff1944 Champion Author South Dakota Posts:4,244 Points:1,076,570 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 7:35:05 PM Ignore Jeff1944 Report Abuse Collusion? In actuality, the plants were built too close to the ocean so a high wave could wipe out the generators. Poor enginerring in my opinion.
Joeski1 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:10,017 Points:1,744,760 Joined:Dec 2004	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 5:44:27 PM Ignore Joeski1 Report Abuse Get this: 3 jap nuke plants are in total f-ing meltdown, 1000's have died, 25 mile red zones are set up, nuke hysteria (and rightfully so as neighbors are dead or sick!) We in the US have plants which are close in design, obsolete break down specials and well beyond truly safe and reliable operational life, and yet cosideration is still being given by the NRC to extend operating permits for 10 , 15, or 20 more years! Talk about cullusion!
csblesson Champion Author Texas Posts:1,826 Points:355,825 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 5:20:34 PM Ignore csblesson Report Abuse Ok
ratones1 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:2,922 Points:734,680 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 5:14:44 PM Ignore ratones1 Report Abuse sad...
mitt4prez Champion Author Tacoma Posts:1,762 Points:1,249,125 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 5:08:33 PM Ignore mitt4prez Report Abuse Yet all those who howl for more, bigger, stronger govt can only stare blankly when confronted with the repulsive phenomenon of regulatory capture.
isis1812 Veteran Author West Virginia Posts:367 Points:192,615 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 4:41:46 PM Ignore isis1812 Report Abuse So sad
PDQBlues Champion Author San Diego Posts:7,084 Points:1,450,275 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 4:17:55 PM Ignore PDQBlues Report Abuse What a disaster! qwerty17: the only one responsible is the nitwit(s?) that thought it was a good idea to put backup generators in a low area near the shoreline. Actually, that would have been fine aswell, if pumps capable of working in sea water (which there are pumps that can) had been used.
qwerty17 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:3,660 Points:1,120,375 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 4:10:59 PM Ignore qwerty17 Report Abuse false. the only one responsible is the nitwit(s?) that thought it was a good idea to put backup generators in a low area near the shoreline. collusion it was not.
fowlcan Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:2,125 Points:687,290 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 3:58:20 PM Ignore fowlcan Report Abuse Whewwwww I thought a HUGE earthquake caused the meltdown. But I guess it was due to humans not mother nature """"" Yea Right
dgerst Champion Author South Carolina Posts:2,721 Points:557,975 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 3:34:13 PM Ignore dgerst Report Abuse was it collusion or a conspericy
dh0770 Champion Author Colorado Posts:6,987 Points:672,460 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 3:30:53 PM Ignore dh0770 Report Abuse Sounds like Wall Street!
Nicoalbum Champion Author Ottawa Posts:6,032 Points:1,191,400 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 3:13:44 PM Ignore Nicoalbum Report Abuse I have never heard about corruption in Japan
SilverDodge2000 Champion Author Spokane Posts:1,038 Points:186,405 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 2:57:43 PM Ignore SilverDodge2000 Report Abuse Time to put a bunch of people in lockup for about 20 years. They won't muck around next time.
nerde Champion Author Florida Posts:6,435 Points:1,317,620 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 2:54:16 PM Ignore nerde Report Abuse "collusion" is such a bad word. In America we prefer to call it "a business friendly environment that creates jobs"
52MPG Champion Author Dayton Posts:7,277 Points:1,744,630 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 2:50:42 PM Ignore 52MPG Report Abuse I am not surprised.
bston Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:1,830 Points:644,975 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 2:43:46 PM Ignore bston Report Abuse Hope it never happens again
evowner Champion Author Salem Posts:2,193 Points:361,330 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 2:39:11 PM Ignore evowner Report Abuse Three entities that over road the safety system in the name of production. I guess greed is good?
gizbo123 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:1,520 Points:1,753,855 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 2:16:29 PM Ignore gizbo123 Report Abuse Figers.
dorisntx Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:2,079 Points:647,355 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 2:12:44 PM Ignore dorisntx Report Abuse ok
soakmonkey Champion Author Nevada Posts:1,448 Points:1,006,600 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 2:01:47 PM Ignore soakmonkey Report Abuse hmm
kag2010 Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:5,269 Points:1,022,685 Joined:Apr 2010	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 1:46:37 PM Ignore kag2010 Report Abuse shocking!
mastermariner Champion Author Texas Posts:4,266 Points:496,650 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 1:38:57 PM Ignore mastermariner Report Abuse What else?
thizben All-Star Author Phoenix Posts:605 Points:285,395 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 1:35:20 PM Ignore thizben Report Abuse shocking! not really.
jorobins538 Champion Author Chicago Posts:4,732 Points:638,320 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 1:33:38 PM Ignore jorobins538 Report Abuse well, THAT sounds familiar.
AlgaeNOW Champion Author Wyoming Posts:1,012 Points:312,030 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 1:25:34 PM Ignore AlgaeNOW Report Abuse k
The_DR Champion Author New Jersey Posts:2,795 Points:587,015 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 1:04:52 PM Ignore The_DR Report Abuse ok
doggod Champion Author Anchorage Posts:2,858 Points:743,310 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 12:58:06 PM Ignore doggod Report Abuse Government regulators colluding with the people they're supposed to regulate? No way, that couldn't happen! Government is the answer to everything, everything in government is lily-white, and it's only the nasty, naughty profit-making people who do bad things. I know this, because they taught it to me in the government school I went to.
Rockyguitar Champion Author Tampa Posts:2,577 Points:1,205,495 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jul 5, 2012 12:52:15 PM Ignore Rockyguitar Report Abuse Kinda reminds me of the waivers granted to B P and others for safety backup closing devices for deep water drilling. Hmmmmmmm.