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Media tycoon David Black’s proposed Kitimat refinery gets Chinese backing

Financial Post -- BC newspaper publisher David Black said China’s largest bank has agreed to provide financial backing for his proposed Kitimat-based heavy oil refinery.

The refinery would cost $25-B to build and all its output would be sold to Asian markets.

Chinese companies will be involved in the engineering and construction of the refinery, but ownership will remain in Canadian hands.

China’s financial backing removes the main hurdle to the project, which has been downplayed by the Canadian oil community.

The refinery will prevent the shipment of bitumen in tankers off BC’s coast and reduce global greenhouse gas emissions by replacing other refineries with less stringent environmental standards.


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Straitliner
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Message Posted: Apr 20, 2013 6:09:47 AM

If you cant come up with the money on your own then you dont need it. Stop having other countries invest in things.
qwerty17
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 11:45:16 PM

beware the red menace.
CdnLynx
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 6:45:26 PM

buddy2264 -
You need to read, I even found the info for you; America takes 97% of the Cdn oil presently, only 3% goes elsewhere. You keep spewing urban legends that it going elsewhere to Asia.

Trudat316 -
Stated "US will build a pipeline across America's heartland to service the Chinese, with no real gain to the American public. The profits would be private. The risks would be socialized."
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And what are you going to put in that pipeline, fracking waste water (rhetorical); seeing that America is already using 97% of Cdn Oil. Cdn oil is presently selling less then WTI or OPEC; so cut off your nose to spite your face and pay OPEC, Russia, Columbia, and others, even more money and your presently complaining of what you must pay at the pump now; imagine paying European prices or higher, sooner as opposed to later! GEESH!!!!
Take that tin foil off your noggins and start to think then constantly spewing urban legends/rhetoric!


[Edited by: CdnLynx at 4/19/2013 6:46:30 PM EST]
doctorindyj
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 2:45:29 PM

If we don't get it someone else with deep pockets will.
wrunner
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 12:50:51 PM

Say no to the Sino.

China needs all the assets it can get it's hands on in the shortest amount of time.

Beware and be forewarned.

mastermariner
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 9:37:15 AM

The Chinese are smart, they are doing this in Africa as well.
merlinCO
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 8:52:06 AM

Wow, they are finally getting it.....
txequitygas
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 8:48:12 AM

does this mean we build the pipeline after they have build half this plant..
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Careful, China owns much of African reserves now
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^¿^
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thank you
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No need for Keystone!
Trudat316
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 6:59:44 AM

Do it dude! Otherwise, we in the US will build a pipeline across America's heartland to service the Chinese, with no real gain to the American public. The profits would be private. The risks would be socialized.
USMCturtlehead
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Put up or Shut up.
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 5:30:45 AM

djgunrunner is right
Buddy2264
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 3:51:33 AM

This is the same reason they want the pipeline to move oil to the Gulf and sell off the fuels.
djgunrunner
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 3:38:47 AM

Talk about selling your soul to the devil.
humblepie
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 3:35:57 AM

or we could build the xl and dump opec
eyegotgas2
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 3:35:23 AM

The US had first dibs on the product but they may never approve the pipeline.

You would of got the product and the refinery jobs not to mention the pipeline jobs
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 2:22:54 AM

what
charg3rguy1991
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 1:57:28 AM

Ewwwww chinese
Z51Corvette
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 1:44:28 AM

Come on... Potus has pushed stuff like this to happen... cut taxes and keep the companies stateside.
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 1:37:57 AM

Once again, the US loses.
snagged
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 1:34:54 AM

There beating us to the punch.
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 1:26:25 AM

We're surprised that the USA hasn't intervened in this. Of course, it is Canada's (or British Columbia's) right to sell to whomever they desire. What impact will this have on gas prices?
CdnLynx
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 1:26:11 AM

Fracking (particularly horizontal) of existing and old fossil fuel wells in America, increases production in the short term and they expend what well life that remained even quicker!
Canada presently ships 97% of its energy to the U.S at present;

2012 Annual Exports to Destinations (choose 2012 excel document)

Now if America shuts out the XL pipeline and American wells are no longer productive; it will leave only other foreign sources, OPEC, Russia, Norway, Mexico, Columbia, with the exception of Mexico, your energy security will be less secure; the only reason I do not include Norway or other friendly off-shore countries is due to distance and the protection of the see routes during time of possible conflict!
Its fine to be concerned with the environment, I am also; its not pragmatic though, a good portion of America must endure winter and without fossil fuels, it would be far more unbearable!
I am sure that Canada even with foreign backing will still be in control of its resources for its own domestic use and for foreign markets in addition to Asia.
However with in placed shipping to gulf refineries ensures that future energy security.
wally52
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 1:25:55 AM

China will do anything to get the oil.
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 1:23:15 AM

this is not goood
boatmen
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 1:22:59 AM

Why not they own most everything now
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 1:22:54 AM

shipping oil to china
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 1:21:20 AM

Selling out to the Chinese.
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 1:20:59 AM

There goes the pipeline.
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 1:19:43 AM

There she goes.
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 1:19:07 AM

Communist invasion. Invest in a risky operation. When it fails the loan default allows the Chinese to own what is left including the land. Red Alert!
REVLAW
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 1:18:41 AM

Sort of depends on the definition of "ownership". Sometimes it is only a facade.
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 1:18:16 AM

There goes the kitchen sink.
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 1:16:38 AM

China is tying up the world by lending money for projects that they will get a return on.. in this case money and gas etc.. China will own the world..
regout
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When I was young we bought little Chinese and now they bought us.
Spankster85
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 1:15:34 AM

That's a lot of money for a damn oil refinery.
pepinoNC
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 1:15:30 AM

Now lets build the pipeline so the Chinese can get their oil.
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 1:15:12 AM


     interesting
DEG
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 1:13:58 AM

The Chinese are making sound investments in their future while Obama is destroying our future.
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 1:13:27 AM

That's right, the Chinese own us
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 1:10:32 AM

This is a huge investment, i hope they know what they are doing
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 1:08:59 AM

ok
Ron77095
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 1:08:04 AM

ok.
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 1:04:05 AM

Canada better be careful who they "play" with!
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 12:59:42 AM

They need the oil products.
ThunderBird89
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 12:56:58 AM

China financing with American dollars printer by obummer, and the rest of the world benefits while the average American wage earner pays the whole tab.
bridgerunner
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 12:55:36 AM

Not a good idea, but they (Canada) were pretty much out of options.
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 12:55:17 AM

Who else is financing this country?
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What do you want to bet China's financing GUARANTEES refinery products to China.
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