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Obama admin moves to limit diesel use in fracking

LA Times -- WASHINGTON -- The Obama administration moved to control the injection of millions of gallons of diesel deep underground during hydraulic fracturing, the controversial oil and gas development technique that avoided oversight by the Environmental Protection Agency because of a loophole created under President George W. Bush.

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Submitted May 07, 2012 By: Penny_Pincher

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Eugene_C Champion Author Columbus Posts:2,299 Points:155,995 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: May 8, 2012 8:42:34 AM Ignore Eugene_C Report Abuse I assume they recover the fuel oil somehow, right?
eromitlab Champion Author Huntsville Posts:7,311 Points:1,451,160 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: May 8, 2012 3:05:45 AM Ignore eromitlab Report Abuse Pumping diesel fuel into the water table... what could possibly go wrong, amirite?
LetemEatCake Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:5,615 Points:1,207,430 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 7:00:17 PM Ignore LetemEatCake Report Abuse Well said Houckster...PERHAPS if you are not careful, your tongue will get stuck in you cheek! LOL! Love it.
drpepperTX Champion Author Texas Posts:8,955 Points:754,160 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 6:59:07 PM Ignore drpepperTX Report Abuse I just went to the Fracfocus site and the first page of the search for wells had this listed as the latest well recorded,by the way there's no diesel used in this one and of the hundreds I've looked at I have not seen diesel used. Could it be that Oblame-a is just spouting off to look good to his enviro buddies? Just asking? Here's the well info: Total Water Volume (gal)*: 2,474,850 True Vertical Depth (TVD): 7,340 Production Type: GAS Long/Lat Projection: NAD27 Latitude: 32.690344 Longitude: -97.316614 Well Name and Number: WATSON SOUTH 2H Operator Name: CHESAPEAKE API Number: 4243935796 County: TARRANT State: TEXAS Hydraulic Fracturing Fluid Composition: Fresh Water 89.79% Ottawa Sand 9.10% Crystalline Silica (Quartz Sand, Silicon) 0.50811% Phenol/Formaldehyde Resin 0.02619% Hexamethylenetetramine (Hexamine) 0.00524% Water 0.39966% Hydrogen Chloride 0.07053% Methanol (Methyl Alcohol) 0.00065% Aliphatic acid 0.00049% Aliphatic alcohols, ethoxylated 0.00049% Sodium Erythorbate 0.00042% Carbohydrate polymer 0.01097% Petroleum Distillate Hydrotreated Light 0.02099% Aliphatic alcohol polyglycol ether 0.00105% Ammonium Persulfate 0.00053% Chlorine Dioxide 0.00056% Sodium Polycarboxylate TRADE SECRET 0.01922% And surprise, surprise and looky there! The trade secret aka "secret sauce" by the fear mongerers is listed right there! See that PDQ!
drpepperTX Champion Author Texas Posts:8,955 Points:754,160 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 6:21:23 PM Ignore drpepperTX Report Abuse NHLivefree "The drilling industry, amazingly, will inject anything and everything into the earth to make a buck without a care in the world about the 'unintended' consequences of their careless actions. It is extremely stupid, but also very unethical to not do anything to assure they are following safe practices!" ==================== Anything? I assume you'd be glad to support that with a credible source right? Otherwise that might just be fear mongering wouldn't you say? Also, if you please, would you support the, "to not do anything to assure they are following safe practices!", statement? Or do you wish to stick to the fear mongering tactics? Take a look around this truly enlightening source of info of not only the precautions taken by oil and gas companies, but the chemicals used and regulations as well! At Your Fingertips
Houckster Champion Author Atlanta Posts:9,347 Points:693,500 Joined:Sep 2003	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 5:35:17 PM Ignore Houckster Report Abuse Yeah CLARKSC, who needs a responsible president when we can have a president who will let companies run wild. Incidents like the Deepwater Horizon spill are just a cost of freedom and the capitalist system. I am deeply offended that people are so concerned about safe drinking water and the value of their lives and homes.
ClarkSC Champion Author South Carolina Posts:3,088 Points:1,013,355 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 5:26:14 PM Ignore ClarkSC Report Abuse He wants to limit everything. Can't wait for the election.
NHLiveFree Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:11,113 Points:1,625,315 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 5:16:21 PM Ignore NHLiveFree Report Abuse The drilling industry, amazingly, will inject anything and everything into the earth to make a buck without a care in the world about the 'unintended' consequences of their careless actions. It is extremely stupid, but also very unethical to not do anything to assure they are following safe practices!
Vette1967 Champion Author Albany Posts:5,982 Points:1,278,925 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 3:17:04 PM Ignore Vette1967 Report Abuse How dumb is that?
nerde Champion Author Florida Posts:6,430 Points:1,316,645 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 2:55:14 PM Ignore nerde Report Abuse Using diesel fuel to get gas? How stupid is that?
NedW Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:5,625 Points:1,144,195 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 2:39:06 PM Ignore NedW Report Abuse This would be hilarious if O'bam-bam Bama's mindset wasn't to run this economy into the ground. [Edited by: NedW at 5/7/2012 2:39:18 PM EST]
packards42 Champion Author Washington Posts:6,452 Points:1,129,565 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 2:27:50 PM Ignore packards42 Report Abuse Look like Obama is getting around COngress again, by making up his own rules and having EPA issue, executive order 1001
fuel2use Champion Author Seattle Posts:3,494 Points:734,370 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 1:51:19 PM Ignore fuel2use Report Abuse Does not sound right.
drpepperTX Champion Author Texas Posts:8,955 Points:754,160 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 12:48:53 PM Ignore drpepperTX Report Abuse You just really have to laugh at this one!!! ROFL...
PathfinderSC Champion Author South Carolina Posts:9,531 Points:1,833,565 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 12:24:13 PM Ignore PathfinderSC Report Abuse Think Obama would say anything to hurt Americans. And never heard pumping Diesel in fracking. Smells fishy.
ScottTee Champion Author Detroit Posts:4,401 Points:1,065,645 Joined:Mar 2010	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 12:20:47 PM Ignore ScottTee Report Abuse there has to be a reasonable method to extract the resources.
Hoporrene Veteran Author Mississippi Posts:312 Points:206,970 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 12:18:58 PM Ignore Hoporrene Report Abuse ok
bicycler Champion Author Ontario Posts:14,815 Points:2,598,445 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 12:08:46 PM Ignore bicycler Report Abuse I find it strange that they send diesal down during fracturing.
Tehbob Champion Author California Posts:2,306 Points:459,555 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 11:57:00 AM Ignore Tehbob Report Abuse good! It's showing up in water supplies.
BburgCW Champion Author Virginia Posts:2,686 Points:1,181,130 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 11:52:13 AM Ignore BburgCW Report Abuse Businesses will do anything for a buck.
bullfrog42 All-Star Author Texas Posts:847 Points:171,085 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 11:36:48 AM Ignore bullfrog42 Report Abuse Go Obama keep making the rich mad with their loop holes for big oil
Van_Halen Champion Author Atlanta Posts:2,855 Points:644,155 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 11:29:31 AM Ignore Van_Halen Report Abuse . Yet again, Obama and his Administration will do anything to prevent cheap fuel! Why would companies inject diesel that cost $4 a gallon when water is 50 cents a gallon?!
matthwbar Champion Author Toledo Posts:4,073 Points:1,019,755 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 11:26:49 AM Ignore matthwbar Report Abuse Gotta love loop-holes..
ktyson13 Champion Author Maryland Posts:1,546 Points:398,600 Joined:Aug 2010	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 11:19:00 AM Ignore ktyson13 Report Abuse not good.
Penny_Pincher Veteran Author Columbus Posts:435 Points:22,695 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 10:51:00 AM Ignore Penny_Pincher Report Abuse You learn something every day. I didn't even know they were using diesel fuel. in "HYDRAULIC" fracking. "Hydraulic" usually means "water", doesn't it?