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Running on empty (and loving it)

The Murfreesboro Post -- If Middle Tennessee State University agriscience teacher Cliff Ricketts’ vision comes to fruition, Americans need never worry about running out of fuel.

They can forget about high gasoline prices as well as air-polluting auto emissions.

Ricketts imagines a day when cars will operate efficiently and cleanly via solar and hydrogen power.

The Mt. Juliet native made one of his dreams come true last March when he and a hand-picked crew drove from the Atlantic Ocean to the Pacific in a relay of three vehicles using hydrogen-fueled water, solar energy and 43 gallons of E-95 (ethanol 95).

Come Saturday morning, Ricketts and his seven like-minded, energy-efficient road warriors intend to repeat the 2,500-plus-mile cruise, this time without burning a drop of gasoline.
“This year our goal is to..


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tomok
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Message Posted: Mar 23, 2013 2:26:31 AM

Running on empty? Prove it!
IT may not be burning a carbon fuel but at what cost? Expensive vehicle and fuel with this empty option. This is many many years away from any practical use.
Drive vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money.
The price of fuel at the pump is too high!
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mamabeck
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2013 1:09:27 AM

Good luck to them! There have been several articles here recently on this so it's becoming a bit boring
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2013 12:01:42 AM

wishing them all the best.
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snerd
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 8:28:58 PM

Hmmm
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 8:20:16 AM

alright then
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gravityhurts
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 7:32:30 AM

Yesterday's news
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FBI2991
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 7:27:07 AM

Old post
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Bonanza
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 5:15:54 AM

Doubt if I will ever see it
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mcmonsta
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 2:47:00 AM

it takes vision and a lot of peoples talent and drive to pull it off
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dougtaylor1
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 12:25:31 AM

Now do it without subsidies and in a way that everyone can afford it.
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crreed1
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 12:19:03 AM

ok
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boatfloyd
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 12:15:00 AM

Sounds like a "Neat Car". Just need to get the price down and start building them.
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wz
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 12:10:47 AM

Solar generated hydrogen continues to look like a promising oil-free fuel, although the manufacture of solar panels is not a green endeavor. Other sources to generate electricity (hydro, tidal, wind, geothermal, nuclear) will need to be added to the mix to produce enough power for business and residential customers, as well as the electricity required to produce hydrogen.

One piece missing from the equation is how long it takes the sun and water to create the hydrogen for the trip. If this is to be a commuter fuel, an average suburban home would need to produce a day's fuel every day - even on a cloudy day.

I like the idea of using it for farm tractors, although they don't mention having actually built one. Farmers have the room for larger solar arrays (or wind turbines), and since they need most of their fuel for planting and harvest, they could have and large storage tanks that take months to fill and remain self-sufficient.
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N5EXY
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 12:10:00 AM

And probably running on guvamint money also.
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obimerrill
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 12:08:53 AM

We will see...
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tedjm1
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 12:08:30 AM

Go,go,go. This is the way to make experiments. How come our gov't. minds did not come up with this idea?
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rahcat
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 12:06:47 AM

No subsidies.
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 12:06:11 AM

Good luck!
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 12:04:49 AM

ok
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 12:04:42 AM

So.
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 12:04:16 AM

Sounds good.
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 12:04:12 AM

Keep up the great work. I would love to see gasoline powered vehicles vanish.
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 12:02:35 AM

Good luck with that.
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 12:02:16 AM

Good read!
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 11:59:09 PM

Get r done
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 11:59:01 PM

Yah and we'll all starve to death because we're using our food for transportation! ; (
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 11:54:57 PM

This article doesn't give a clue about the cost. When gas gets so expensive I can't afford to drive 14 miles round trip to work or take the car out for groceries I will park the car and take the bus.
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PrettyLittleLady
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 11:54:30 PM

this should have already been done--why the long wait.
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gd83goldwinger
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 11:53:36 PM

Ok, when we get there and all can afford it.
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 11:53:10 PM

Sounds good but I wonder if the hydrogen was a biproduct of oil refining.
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 11:51:19 PM

One item I haven't heard much about is using methane as fuel. Anyone else hear anything??
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 11:49:39 PM

Good comments that I agree with...

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Driving cross country with support vehicles is only a stunt to show that the car could be driven solely off of solar-produced hydrogen.

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Producing hydrogen from water uses A LOT of electricity. It would be more cost effective to just use the electricity to charge an electric vehicle. Plus, it takes a lot of energy to compress the hydrogen into the fuel tank.

All this means that hydrogen is a very expensive fuel source.

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I'll just leave it at that.
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waynemustang
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 11:49:03 PM

Solar or hydrogen will NOT work.
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 11:49:00 PM

Interesting
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 11:47:17 PM

a goal to strive for
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Aviator_Rob
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 11:39:10 PM

@ElectDsgnEngr said,

"There is no substitute for just trying. Our nation was built on people trying one thing or another. Edison did not succeed on his first prototype, but it takes positive encouragement to our researching teams to look for solutions. Is there one solution that will solve all... probably not, but there is always the ability to try different things."

And right on to @Eugenian who wrote, "Well said, ElectDsgnEngr. Too bad we have so many Luddites and oil industry shills on this site trying to shoot down every renewable energy effort."

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Brucevanf
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 11:37:51 PM

This is what overpriced oil will create in the future.
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Aviator_Rob
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 11:37:07 PM

Jeez, @BigKart. You really missed the point. Nobody said you put the solar panels ON the vehicle. In the real world, you would install them at the fueling station where the electricity generated goes into producing the hydrogen which would then be compressed and stored in tanks, ready for fueling.

Driving cross country with support vehicles is only a stunt to show that the car could be driven solely off of solar-produced hydrogen.
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us4usa
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 11:34:29 PM

Big oil will not like this article...
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Aviator_Rob
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 11:32:34 PM

Running a car on hydrogen is not much different than running one on compressed natural gas. The main difference is that hydrogen needs to be stored under much higher pressures than CNG or else you won't be able to drive very far between fill-ups.

Now, onto the cost. Producing hydrogen from water uses A LOT of electricity. It would be more cost effective to just use the electricity to charge an electric vehicle. Plus, it takes a lot of energy to compress the hydrogen into the fuel tank.

All this means that hydrogen is a very expensive fuel source.
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TheSnowstorm
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 11:32:28 PM

I'm all for it, except for the ethanol part.
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bvrbill
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 11:30:13 PM

Good Luck.

I hope it works.
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 11:28:18 PM

nOT SURE IT WORKS IN THE REAL WORLD :(
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 11:27:34 PM

This has got to be government funded.
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 11:24:08 PM

Hydrogen will not be viable fuel without some scientific breakthrough
and E95 is not a good alternative for gasoline, proven time and time again

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monarch57
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 11:21:40 PM

That would be great. It sure would put the greedy oil companies out of business.
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 11:19:08 PM

Thats great.....
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 11:18:21 PM

far fetched now, common place soon
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 11:16:28 PM

good luck to them
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I'll believe it when I see it.
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