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Technology stalls Minnesota's statewide mileage tax idea

Star tribune -- The idea intrigued Kathy Gillen: Pay highway taxes by the mile instead of the gallon.

So the Otsego, Minn., resident signed on for one of the nation’s largest experiments to test how a state might keep track of miles a vehicle is driven.

But the technology wasn’t quite up to the task.

“It counted twice a couple of times, and didn’t count at all a bunch of times,” Gillen recalled.

The recent experiment involving 500 drivers in the region reflects a desire by state officials to find an alternative to the gasoline tax, a highway funding powerhouse that’s likely to diminish as cars become more fuel-efficient.

The results, however, suggest that mileage fees face a long, bumpy road to becoming reality.

The smartphone technology installed in the volunteers’ cars failed in about a third of


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gravityhurts
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 6:45:06 AM

Just another way to screw the consumer. Are they trying to destroy our country.
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bston
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 1:08:05 AM

They'll probably find a way to enact it before it's all over.
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MidNJ
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 1:05:22 AM

Avaitor,

Fellas, do yourselves a favor and just unplug now. Go run off into the wilderness where nobody can bother you. ?? -

????????????

Unfortunately there are very few "wilderness" areas available.
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DrGasPain
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:53:39 AM

Not ready for prime time!
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livewire300
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:52:31 AM

Stalls...
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GAS1251
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:51:21 AM

Trial and error .
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Aviator_Rob
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:47:52 AM

Oh, great. As if the Internet trolls on this site weren't paranoid enough, now we got them howling "Big Brother" yet again.

Fellas, do yourselves a favor and just unplug now. Go run off into the wilderness where nobody can bother you.
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mcmonsta
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:46:18 AM

just a matter of time and brainpower for the solution
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VikingWoman
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:45:24 AM

In rural areas farmers need to drive their tractors on the road.In many states they are not licensed. In Wisconsin a license is not required as tractors and other farm machinery are are considered 'an implement of husbandry' and therefore exempt.

Typically farmers have gasoline and diesel delivered to their farm storage tanks and I believe there is no state fuel tax. I'm in favor of this being continued as the life of a farmer isn't an easy one or predicably profitable.

I hope the highway departments of all the states don't decide to mess with this since they are digging and scratching for any way possible to make another dollar.
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:44:19 AM

good
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Z51Corvette
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:42:38 AM

J Eric... was that supposed to be a FUNNY, lol

Geez... don't give up your day job, lol!

At least the know what NOT to do now!
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mlmeng
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:42:29 AM

Technology always seem to require a debugging time. Need volunteers to assist with that task.
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:41:55 AM

OK
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J Eric
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:41:00 AM

They have Technology in Minnesota?
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:40:47 AM

Agree with mfeldstein
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camel1
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:40:35 AM

wrong style of tracking app and poor fee structure.
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:39:28 AM

Figures!
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mfeldstein
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:37:53 AM

Keep it simple - just keep on increasing the gas tax as cars become more fuel-efficient.
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:34:30 AM

When it comes to taxes the government can't do anything right.
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:34:10 AM

What will they come up with next. If there are two people in the vehicle will the mileage tax double.
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:30:59 AM

Great news
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:30:33 AM

don't want this
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:29:48 AM

beware the pennies on your eye...
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:28:29 AM

This was a government-sponsored test. Which means there were probably bugs thrown into it by the (corporation-paid) programmers to insure that it wouldn't work.

Get some of the mileage stuff from the Insurance Companies for their use. I'll bet they all work perfectly.
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:27:58 AM

Must be Microsoft software.
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:27:33 AM

That's a shame
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oldred11
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:27:27 AM

I suspect mileage taxes will never work well.
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:25:16 AM

Technology is (and always will be) a problem with mileage based fuel taxes
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:25:16 AM

That is probably actually good
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:24:39 AM

Anything to get more money out of our pockets!
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:24:21 AM

Not a fan of mileage tax, but if that's what people want here is one way to do it... Everyone needs tags on there vehicles so with yearly safety inspection record the mileage, you pay at DMV...
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rap12MA
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:23:17 AM

Another way to squeeze a buck out of us.
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:23:10 AM

once again, big brother tried to invade our lives..at least for now, this attempt failed..
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:22:40 AM

Another tax on the poor. The person with the million dollar motor home getting 2 mpg pays the same as the poorer person getting 40 mpg in a small car. (I measured 41 mpg in my 1985 Sentra.)
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:22:04 AM

Cool
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:21:59 AM

old news
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:20:00 AM


I have yet to see a functional method for assessing a per-mile tax that is not invasive.
There are just too many pitfalls to this method.
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:18:14 AM

They will keep trying and trying until they can find every possible way to suck every penny they can get out of everybody.
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:17:40 AM

Old hat
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:16:12 AM

Old news!!!
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tedjm1
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:15:55 AM

The less tech the better.
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MikeCapeCoral
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:15:49 AM

So much for technology.
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:15:14 AM

Pay both!
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:15:04 AM

More taxes coming soon.
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noonedwagfan
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:15:01 AM

So be it!!!
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:14:47 AM

Good, we have enough technology spying on us.
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:14:27 AM

More likely to become additional to the gasoline tax rather than an alternative.
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:14:21 AM

O.K.
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:12:56 AM

Sounds like it needs much more development.
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2013 12:12:37 AM

Hilarious test!
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