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Why Toyota and GM Are Pushing Fuel-Cell Cars to Market

MIT Technology Review -- Hydrogen-powered vehicles have been out of the spotlight for years, but they’re about to make a surprising comeback. Toyota says it will unveil a hydrogen fuel-cell-powered sedan later this year that will go on sale in 2015; several other automakers, meanwhile, have announced partnerships to commercialize the technology (see “Ford, Daimler, and Nissan Commit to Fuel Cells”), including GM and Honda, which announced such a collaboration this week.

While many challenges remain for hydrogen vehicles, in recent years researchers have made big improvements in the oft-maligned technology, including greatly lowering its cost. As a result, fuel-cell vehicles look poised to play a significant role in meeting ambitious vehicle emissions regulations, particularly in places such as California.



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honda0105
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Message Posted: Jul 10, 2013 6:56:42 AM

fuel cells are probably good, but there's more R&D to be done.

Local busses get 10 minute recharge for 60 miles travel to replace 5 of the diesel ones.
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honda0105
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ROI for being the first in the market?
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Hydrogen, ultimately, will be THE way to go. No doubt in my mind.
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MAC48
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2013 11:43:32 AM

The article has two price quotes for the Toyota fuel-cell powered sedan at $100,000 and $50,000 respectively which is definitely out of reach for 90+% of the vehicle using public for a small to medium size sedan. This is before the problem of hydrogen fuelling stations has even been addressed. The concept for hydrogen fuel-cell powered vehicles has indeed come a very long way from the millions per fuel-cell used in satellites and exploratory deep space vehicles 30 years ago but its technology has not yet advanced to the point of being an affordable, practical and attractive alternative option for for the vast majority of vehicle buyers.
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2013 11:18:16 AM

SOMETHING in the alternative energy genre needs to make a comeback! Maybe it is this???
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2013 11:14:35 AM

Water in the Gas Tank!
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Variety available for everyone
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2013 6:01:16 AM

Push your product on me and I'm going to push back. I don't want it.
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2013 2:44:19 AM

Alrighty then
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2013 12:27:56 AM

"at what price point???"

From what I've read, the first ones on the market will be up in the Tesla price range.
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2013 12:19:22 AM

at what price point???
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2013 12:17:33 AM

Maybe, maybe not.
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2013 12:10:40 AM

Long way to go.
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Much ado about nothing.
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IM READY!!
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One day we will be driving Indy cars to the super market
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2013 12:00:49 AM

pricy
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 11:59:40 PM

we'll see...
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No way is it for my family
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GOOD LUCK!
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 11:56:45 PM

Not for me
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 11:55:30 PM

fuel-cell cars have been discussed for over 3 decades. don't start holding your breath for these things.
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 11:55:22 PM

interesting....
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 11:54:18 PM

Another great idea for the next decade.
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 11:52:24 PM

if only the alternative fuels would make a conversion kit from gasoline
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 11:51:45 PM

Boooooo GM.
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 11:51:28 PM

Logical
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 11:50:34 PM

I like the idea, but not GM
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gm will stink at it
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 11:49:06 PM

We shall see.
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 11:49:00 PM

It's all about innovation
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 11:47:48 PM

We need other types to bring more competition on oil and lower the prices, but we also need to move on to a better energy source.
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 11:46:06 PM

Time will tell!
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 11:45:51 PM

Weren't they already supposed to be here?
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 11:45:08 PM

They probably make more sense than EVs.
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 11:44:21 PM

Nice try
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 11:43:19 PM

Glad to hear. I hope this works.
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 11:39:16 PM

Hopefully another workable alternative on it's way
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 11:38:02 PM

Go...
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COST WILL TELL
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 11:34:26 PM

Why Toyota and General Motors are pushing fuel-cell cars to market and researchers have made big improvements in the oftg-maligned technology,including greatly lowering its cost.
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 11:34:14 PM

not sure about that
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 11:32:02 PM

I like what I have.
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 11:30:31 PM

No thanks, I'll stick with gasoline power.
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 11:30:23 PM

Maybe the Feds will give me $7,000 to buy one of these. These actually sound feasible, unlike the electric cell car.
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 11:26:50 PM

I did not know that much improvement in Hydrogen powered cars had occurred in the last few years. They are getting closer to actually becoming practical.
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 11:20:43 PM

Get it on the market and we'll see what it can do.

Probably still expensive though prices have been lowered.
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 11:19:17 PM

Is it worth the cost?
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 11:17:34 PM

good luck
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 11:17:25 PM

Fuel cells worked for us in orbit and on trips to the Moon. Applying technology to the auto industry is about 30 years overdue.
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